Tyson may have said his tough guy image was fake. I don't see what that has to do with the price of plums, anyway. Surely we're on about real performances not exaggerated personae. Okay, Tyson never turned a losing fight against top opposition. So what? Who did? Dempsey? Louis (Billy Conn was a smallish LHW)? Marciano (yes, he came from behind against Walcott and Charles but he was an attrition fighter - he didn't turn fights around by doing anything different - and was never in a hopeless position in either fight.)? Liston? Frazier? Holmes? Lewis? Finally, saying you don't 'rate with Ali' in terms of will to win does not automatically mean you, therefore, don't rate with the will of other ATGs, as you suggest. It simply means you don't rate with Ali. Nothing else is implied. Throughout the history of the sport - what little I know of it, anyway - there have been fewer examples of a greater, or even equal, will than Ali's. It was almost supernatural and is held in that regard by most fighters. For a fighter as respectful of boxing history as Tyson was, the comment is only to be expected but I wouldn't take it to mean all other ATGs. I would imagine Tyson considered their wills, while extraordinary, to be more in a mortal stratosphere and may not be so ready to be so self-effacing if asked to compare his with theirs.