Would Carl Froch have faced prime RJJ and co. if he'd been champ in that era?

IMHO, yes.

But only if Carl had've held either the WBA or the WBC.

Roy made efforts to fight Frankie Liles and Nigel Benn for those belts.

If you want the links, I'll show you.

If Carl had've held one of those, and he'd have been willing to travel, I think Roy would have seen it as an easy opportunity.

 

You're welcome to join in on the other thread. I always enjoy debating with you.

I'm not going to bore everyone and upload all of the links regarding the Dariusz M saga.

It's been to done to death.


But you can quickly look at the following two:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/stories/2002-07-10-jones-hopkins.htm


This next one is an excerpt from Jim Thomas's book. Jim Thomas was Evander Holyfield's attorney for 13 years, and he made all of Evander's fights.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...a=X&ei=vWC6VIrGNcuN7AbdlYGoBA&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg


Regarding Roy at HW, he went up too late in my opinion. After the Ruiz fight, he was a LHW who was approaching 35. He was looking for a huge mega money fight to remain there. When one didn't materialise, he dropped back for Tarver.

He had an opportunity to fight Corrie Sanders at HW, for a guaranteed $10m. But it wasn't enough for him. He'd made over $15m for Ruiz.

 

Yes of course - Froch has never swerved anyone.

 

Toney should have fought Eubank or Benn and so should RJJ so no I don't think they would have faced Froch either

 

How was a Eubank fight ever viable?

 

Absolutely .

Froch fears no man .

 

With your comment about a certain welshman, you are assuming Froch would be going up to LHW, which he hasnt done so far, so I guess he would stay at SMW, where he is champ.
Froch hasnt gone up to LHW and I seem to think he mentioned that he could give Pascal a rematch at LHW, but could be wrong. Either way that hasnt happened

 

How wasn't it?

 

Because Roy only fought at SMW for a very brief period.

Roy's reign at SMW, was between Nov, 94 - Oct, 96.


In that time frame, Eubank had the following fights:

In December, 94, he beat Henry Wharton.

In March, 95, he lost his WBO belt to Steve Collins.

In May and August of 95, he had two comeback wins at LHW.

In September, 95, he rematched Collins, and lost to him again.

He then had a year out of the ring, before having a comeback fight in Oct, 96, at LHW.


So their paths never crossed.

Yet many people accuse Roy of ducking him.

 

He did. he could have and should have.

 

What are you talking about?

 

why did he have a brief period at smw? maybe to avoid tough fights with these guys. your facts are spot on but they don't mean the fight was never viable.RJJ moved to smw when it was a fantastic division. he chose not to stick around and move up. He isn't such a big guy that he couldn't have made weight.
Hew chose the route of getting belts at different weights instead of fighting the best. great skilful fighter nonetheless .

 

to be fair he didn't stay at any weight for long, so its not right to claim he stayed at JUST SMW briefly, because he didn't stay long at ANY division.

 

when there are belts on both sides of the atlantic in the same division a massive fight is always on. Eubank or Benn would have been massive and I'm sure could have been made

 

After Roy had won the vacant IBF, MW title, he moved up to challenge James Toney at SMW, who was considered one of the best fighters on the planet. After he'd beaten Toney, he couldn't unify with Liles or Benn, so he went up to LHW.

If my facts are spot on, then how on earth could the fight have been viable?

Also, Eubank never chased the big name U.S. fighters. He's on record stating that. He was content to just face his mandatories on Sky/ITV. Go and look at his resume. Again, their paths never crossed. How can can you question why Roy didn't fight him?

You can't question why Roy didn't target a British WBO title holder, when he targeted James Toney, who'd beaten McCallum, Nunn, Johnson, Barkley and Littles etc.

You're way off.