Would Carnera Have Done As Well As Willard?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    As in, facing off against Jack Johnson? So Primo of the Sharkey aeeem fight, up against Jack Johnson in his last title fight.
    Does Primo fail to stop the old champ?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes. Primo Carnera was a better fighter than Jess Willard and the version of Johnson who Jess beat was diminished.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Idk, I'm tempted to say Jess was a more durable guy. I know Jack was on last leg s but he was leading I believe in the fight. Could Primo, in a fight on the level, in that heat, still be around in 26?
    Anyway, good to see you back mr Magoo. You been gone to long!
     
  4. janitor

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    Johnson would have had more chance of getting the stoppage against Carnera.

    That might have made the difference.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No way.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No, Carnera had neither the punch, or the chin of Willard.
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He was a better technician though.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Thanks Ferg. Good to see you too
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Till he was hit.Then he fell to pieces.
     
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  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I'm of the opinion that Primo's fights when he was on the way up were fixed. At least some of them. Jack Sharkey never got any Oscar consideration which is a dam shame. Dump the title, no Oscar, but he gets to live.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    His first manager sad 24 of his early fights were fixed.Several later ones are considered to be as well.
     
  12. Fergy

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    Makes you wonder, if Primo was thrown in against JJ, even a Johnson that had seen his best days, how he'd cope with a long distance fight? Willard hung in there, I'm not sure Carnera had the stuff to last in those conditions.
    He might have found things a little to hot and mentally crumbled.
     
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  13. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    No, he didn't have the chin and tgat version of Johnson would've caught him eventually

    Though I have a somewhat contrarian opinion that Willard was the better of the two.

    Primo was better taught, but Willard was much more of a natural fighter.
     
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  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Primo will always be a fraud in my opinion. He had heart though.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Willard was to Carnera what Vitali was to Wlad...less conventionally skilled, but tougher, stronger and more dangerous in an "outside the box" sort of way.
    BTW, 1919 Toledo Dempsey would have killed Primo in that 1st round.