Would Chris Eubank Go Through Joe Calzaghe's Resume Undefeated?

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  1. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nelson would say something like that because he hates Graham.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Really?

    Honestly mate, I've never heard that before.
     
  3. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=397588

    Well this a thread you yourself posted on the matter, and where does Eubank say he knocked Graham out? He says he knocked him down (twice?), which Graham also admits to. Eubank also admits that Graham schooled him the rest of the time.
     
  4. travolt

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    BUTTHURT INDEED !

    What a Calzone hater you must be.

    Schommer slightly outscored Chris, never beat him up.

    Watson had to absorb many bombs through his guard in order to deliver his own blows.

    Joe is the only fighter to have consistenly beaten Chris to the punch and to have repeatedly outclassed and bullied him on the inside.
    He won these exchanges 4 to 1 ; had him hurt and on the canvas multiple times with his laser-like left that Chris just couldn't avoid.

    The bewildered look on Chris' face was priceless.

    By comparaison, Collins won by boxing from the outside and landing combinations.

    Thompson was fighting on the inside too, but he was more often than not losing these exchanges and getting hurt badly on more than one occasion; only his size allowed him to wear down Chris.

    Which proves Eubank was far from finished when Joe went through him.
     
  5. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    :lol::lol:

    I think you have been convinced by Eubanks self obsession. So you claim Watson dramatically improved in the 3 months between their fights?

    Comedy gold.

    You also claim Eubank couldn't handle Mike's pure strength in the rematch. Perhaps you should try to understand skill and class, because that is what Watson used against Chris.

    However your best example of revisionist delusion is Eubank won the first 7 rounds of the first fight comfortably.
     
  6. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No sane person who knows boxing agrees with you, I would give it up before the men in white come calling to take you away in the white van, my son.
     
  7. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes, Watson improved dramatically in the 3 months between their fights, absolutely - it was known that he trained much harder for the 2nd fight, ate much better, felt much stronger due to the extra weight and used a totally different style, with far more focus and intensity.

    Idiot.

    And no, Eubank clearly could not handle Mike's strength in the rematch - as he was clearly forced back from it (duh!), he also hit Mike with the kitchen sink and Mike seemed to be walking right through the kind of shots that would at least floor at least almost all other fighters.

    Eubank himself admits that he won the first seven rounds of their first fight comfortably, and watching it with the sound on mute it is as clear as daylight to a non-mentalist - just look at the feet!-Eubank's are sliding and gliding in every direction and Watson is merely plodding forward in slow-motion by comparison. Then estimately measure, approximately, the length of the shots - Eubank's are less than six inches, Watson's more than 12. Go slo-mo if you have to, and see Eubank catch Watson's shots as easily as catching a ball thrown by a child, or slip Watson's jab as easily as breathing through your nose; also see in your study where Eubank's gloves end up when he throws (notice the twitch in the feet and ankles with each shot as well, when you rewind) - through the glove-size gaps in Watson's peek-a-boo guard and onto the chin or head.

    Be a man. Dishonesty is the sign of a coward.
     
  8. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eubank definitely sparred with Graham before he fought McCallum.

    Unless they sparred twice :huh
     
  9. travolt

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    :huh

    Delusion at it's best !
     
  10. atberry

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    Seek help, you IDIOT.
     
  11. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Listen, dumbo:

    Watch the very first rd of Calzone - Eubank.

    I defy you, or anyone, to name another rd, during Chris whole career, where he was more dominated and in danger of being stopped than in that first rd.

    Easy enough ?
     
  12. atberry

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    Try the 11th round of the second Watson fight!? Are you for real?!
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    LOL. Er, not really. I set about trolling you and I succeeded. I could've left it at that and no one would've been any the wiser and the rumour of Andy Flute knocking out the mighty Chris Eubank would've spread like wildfire. lol

    And I was being kind when I said it was only SOMETIMES that you talk a lot of nonsense. You talk a heck of a lot, as you have done in this thread. You are pretty knowledgeable and amusing though.

    It's undeniable that Eubank did win many controversial decisions throughout his career though. Lots of people thought Amaral beat him (did you know that Amaral was actually blind in one eye? He fought his entire career that way).

    And Frankie Liles beat Amaral easily you loon. lol

    And all of the other fights I mentioned were controversial. That said, I thought Eubank beat Collins in their first fight the last time I watched it. The referee awarded a bogus KD to Collins in the eighth round, when Eubank went down from a body shot that was clearly the result of him being off balance (I understand why he counted it though) and ignored what was seemingly a legitimate one against him in the second round when he went over from a big right hand (I think) from Eubank to the side of his head.

    What a lot of people seem to forget about that fight was that it was fought in Dublin, on St. Patrick's day weekend (the following night after St. Patrick's day), and in front of an extremely raucous and partisan crowd of thousands of heavily fired up Irishmen, and against an opponent who was even more fired up they they were. It was a huge event, the first major fight in the city for a long time IIRC, and everything was in Collins' favour.

    And if that wasn't testing enough for Eubank, the hypnotist shenanigans by Collins and his team took it to another level. That was a stroke of genius by Collins, albeit a bit below the belt. Eubank fell for his mind games hook, line and sinker, and I don't care what he says now, it clearly had a big effect on him. He looked like he was almost on the verge of tears during an interview he gave to Sky Sports on the eve of the fight. He was threatening to pull out of the fight all together. He actually thought he was going to be facing an opponent who was ''completely immune to pain and that would be able to see his punches coming in slow motion'' lol.

    An excerpt from an article about it:

    ''When I see Eubank's punches, they will be coming at me in slow motion! He (Collins) declared!

    'When Eubank heard - as Collins hoped he would - he was outraged. ''I cannot fight this man. It won't be Collins. It will be a man under a spell,'' he said. ''Such things are dangerous and have no place in boxing. He could be killed or seriously hurt.'' For two hours, while he should've been resting his mind and body, Eubank was in furious debate with promoter Barry Hearn. At first he was adamant that the fight was off. Only the persistence of Hearn persuaded the champion to change his mind.'

    Here's the videos for those of you who haven't seen them. Some of this is hysterical. lol at the stuff the 'hypnotist' is spewing in the first one and at Collins pretending to be hypnotized in the second.

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    And as I said in an earlier post, that was Eubank's 7th fight in 11th months and their rematch was his 10th in 19. I think he should've taken a long rest during those six months between their first and second fights and let his mind and body recuperate from the long and gruelling run of fights he'd had in too quick succession. Collins was a very clever, crafty fighter though and he won the mental battle in both of those fights. He fought with a completely different style to how he'd ever fought before in the rematch and it completely caught Eubank by surprise.
     
  14. travolt

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    Chris gave as much as he received in that rd, for crying's sake. Nearly drives Watson out of the ring at the mid rd.
    He went down as much due to exhaustion than to being punched.

    In contrast for Calzone he was fresh from the start; yet it was one way traffic non stop; total embarassement and on the verge of being stopped.

    Anything else ? :hi: