Would Conn Have A Realistic Chance Of Beating Dempsey?

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  1. Dempsey?

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  2. Conn?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously I'm taking about the Billy Conn that almost, nearly beat the great Joe Louis.

    Instead he's facing the Mauler of 1921. How's he cope?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, very well. Probably gets beaten out to the body though, as was the fate of Gibbons. Dempsey is especially to be favoured if there's more of that apparently terrible refereeing.

    I feel "keeping Dempsey busy" would be tougher than keeping Louis busy though.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Louis dried out and ate hardly anything to reduce weight and not look like a bully,he said he felt like **** against Conn.Louis was also more methodical and basically stalked the fleet footed Conn,Dempsey was in your face and quicker afoot than Joe.Jack gets to him sooner or later,probably, as McGrain says, via a constant body bombardment.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've got Dempsey stopping him before the tenth. There wouldn't be many rounds imo actually that Conn wins.
    J takes him out of his stride from the first round. He'd be to busy hanging on to his head.
     
  5. Arminius1

    Arminius1 Member Full Member

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    Dempsey would pummel Conn. He was way to strong for Conn.
     
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    Bujia Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I’d think Dempsey would be a worse style matchup for Conn. He matched up quite well with Louis.

    Not sure about the first part, though. I’ve heard it, but it doesn’t really jive for me. He weighed less than 2 pounds more in his previous fight and less than 3 pounds more in his next fight. Then there’s the whole thing about the weights being fudged that a lot of people subscribe to. Conn being lighter than listed and Louis being heavier to make it appear less of a mismatch. I’m not sure about that one, either. They didn’t look more than the 25 pounds apart they were listed as to me.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can also see Conn at the back end, actually going for it with Dempsey, the old red mist descending as it did with Louis.
    Of course, it wouldn't help Billy boy, just being about his ending a little quicker!
     
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  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Best Chin On ESB Full Member

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    Dempsey would beat a very game Conn to a pulp. Conn was a tough guy and wouldn't go away easily he likely takes a prolonged beating before crumbling.
     
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  9. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Conn is the type of boxer Dempsey had problems with. I think Conn is a better boxer than Tunney but smaller. So Conn may well outbox Dempsey with his straighter quicker punches. That 10lb weight advantage may mean Conn gets bullied though. Hard to say, it's a good match up.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Louis said it in his autobiography,so I guess you either take his word for it or not.
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Conn was talented, tough and game but I see the 1921 Dempsey, still in his prime, doing a number on Billy ..
     
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    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not only does he lose to the Mauler of 1921, he loses to THE NONPARIAL of the 1880s
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Conn doesn't have the power the make Dempsey hesitate. Jack chase's him down and stops him brutally
     
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    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He didn't do that with Tunney and healthy Miske fought him to a split decision and Greb supposedly outboxed him. Dempsey would need to break Conn to the body. If Conn is beating Dempsey to the punch, he would respect Conn's power.
     
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  15. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Active Member Full Member

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    Yea, you have got it about right.
     
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