Would Dubois beat Hrgovic without the headbutts?

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Dubois beats Hrgvoic without headbutts?

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  2. No

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  1. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He really is a dirty fighter, isn't he! I think it gets overlooked because of his innocent boyish demeanor. Warren has definitely got influence over the officials as well, though. But can you imagine him fighting Joshua or Fury and the referee not docking a point?

    Even so, once Dubois weathered the early storm it looked like Hrgovic hadn't prepared at all for a 12 round fight. I wasn't happy about the constant headbuts, and that is basically what really made a mess of the cuts. However, the round before the stoppage, Hrgovic looked completely gassed and got beat pillar to post by Dubois.

    Maybe Hrgovic gets a second wind, we will never know, but it looked like he didn't have the gas tank to win by the mid rounds
     
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  2. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Well he unlocked achievement at a opportune time, as now the IBF interim champ.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No, he wouldn't. They did the massive damage, as there was 20-30 headbutts. Literally every clinch, which was done by Dubois he was headbutting first, which is illegal. You can't charge and move your head towards your opponent head, which is deliberate act of trying to connect with a headbutt. While most of them wasn't full force, they still take quite enough of you, and make Hrgovic a bloody mess.
    And if we are fair, whether they was the number 1 key or not, it's irrelevant. This is Boxing, not headbutting. They are completely illegal, and by the second charge of Dubois with his head, referee should have start deducting point and eventually DQ.
    So my answer is NO, as Dubois should have been DQ, by the 3rd round, let alone entering the 8th.
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah i almost forget how they cheated Lerena.
    And it's not just Dubois being dirty, but he is allowed to cheating in the ring, as referee is obviously paid to do nothing, and help him.
    It's almost always for the UK fighters as well .... Maybe it's time Boxing allow only UK/USA fighters to fight, so at least it's fair ....
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It wasn't the headbutts that hurt him it was the punches he couldn't get out of the way from that had him hurt and reeling.
     
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  6. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

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    Filip gassed and it seemed like he couldn't do nothing anymore

    Without the cuts he probably would have lost 7:5 or being KOed some rounds later
     
  7. bribox123

    bribox123 New Member Full Member

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    Look at the height placement of the cuts. It's exactly where Dubois' forehead is. Punches made cuts in identical areas above each eye?
     
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  8. bribox123

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    It's not Hrgovic's fault as he shouldn't have to worry about dodging headbutts.
     
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  9. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's face it Hrgovic was taking no risk match ups.. moment I watched him fight Mark De Mori I thought to my self "I hope this ***** gets found out"... KARMA is a *****
     
  10. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They did but it's way more fun to ignore all of that.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It was the headbutts that make him a bloody mess, and headbutts can take quite a lot of your gas tank as well. Just like punches can do. And can we stop acting like there was 1 or 2 headbutts, when they were 20-30 and Dubois was constantly charging with his head ?
    This was illegal all over, why are people trying to defend this blatant cheater?
    Why is people defend Warren's and Saudi in this? How the f**** you can put a UK referee, and one of the worst as well in a fight, where there is UK fighter?

    There is no doubt that Hrgovic punch himself out in the very first round, and there was no way that he could fight at this pace, throwing so many power shots, and he literally ignore his own jab and rhythm, and also to pace himself properly, but the headbutts from Dubois should have lead to a DQ.
    Dubois should have been warned straight away, as headbutting is causing very seriously damage to anyone, even if it's not fully committed headbutt. He should have been point deducted the moment he continue to charge with his head, and if continue to do so DQ.
     
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  12. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did the headbutts suck all his stamina so much that he was basically standing there getting punched in the head?
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Save it. I was the first one to notice how Hrgovic punch himself out in the very first round, where all the people were saying how impressive he was in the RBR thread. There was literally no way he could keep up with that tempo.
    Still i don't see how we should ignore Dubois dirty cheating, which should have resulted in a straight DQ, long before the 8th. round.

    And yeah getting headbutt to the head can drain your stamina further, just some fighters gets tired after hard shots.
    Parker looks totally gassed after Whyte did him the headbutt, and Parker never recover from that shot.
    AJ cardio was gone the moment Ruiz landed that counter temple.
    Different fighters, different results though.
     
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  14. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nah, I’m normally a fan of your posts, but you’re unhinged over this. He lost, was never that good and overrated despite never beating anyone except zang.
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If you think i'm fan of Hrgovic you are wrong. I just don't dismiss fighters, cause of a bad night, and always try to be unbiased when it comes to referee and judging.

    Hrgovic f**** badly, and he may have lost the fight without the headbutts, but that doesn't remove the dirty cheating from Dubois. Also Hrgovic was a complete idiot for not making it even more obvious than it was, and he has done almost none complaining, which was moronic, but the referee job is exactly that to look for illegal tactics and not allow them.

    And if we are to compare Hrgovic and Dubois. I like Dubois a lot more, and to be fair i think Dubois is very bad stylistic match up for a lot of fighters. But he also has very bad style fighters against him. :D
    But i totally dislike him since he moved to don Charles, which the dirty tricks started playing. He is also a UK, Warren's fighter, which just gives him the benefit of the doubt to whatever he does, and is always helped by the referees, and this is something i can't ignore.
     
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