Would Eubank fancy Smith or Groves?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Here's Johnny, Feb 4, 2017.


  1. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jr and his dad just want to fleece mongs who will but their crap. They had GGG offered to them on a plate and bricked it.
     
  2. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I left Degale out of this because, I agree that Eubank Jr. would have much more chance against someone like Degale. Degale would make him look stupid at times but his speed and Degale's fading out of fights would make that a quite close fight I think.
     
  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He showed what? Murray had him hurt at the end of the fight, Eubank is a much better offensive fighter than Murray. I'll stand by my predictions, he stops Groves late and beats DeGale on points.
     
  4. CasualFan

    CasualFan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Groves is one of my favorite UK fighters but I just wonder if CEJ's workrate gives Groves problems down the stretch. Would love to see them match up. I reckon it could be the same with Chunky. I think Groves not being tied to Boxnation or Sky makes it an easier fight to make on ITV.
     
  5. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Question to the guys who claim CEJ has a granite chin....when and whom against as he proven this theory?
     
  6. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's decent, not saying granite cos it hasn't been properly tested yet. But it gets caught flush in most fights I've seen of his. O'Sullivan is the most memorable I think he got caught with powerful shots a good 2/3 times.
     
  7. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    He showed that he can now pace himself and not fade later in a fight.

    Murray's plan was to take him to deeper waters and dominate the later rounds. He upped the pace but Groves withstood it and it was actually Groves who nearly finished him in the end. They were both shattered in round 12 but Groves saw it out.

    Against Gutknecht he looked as strong in the 12th as he did throughout.

    I'm sorry but I can't disagree more. He made hard work of an average, domestic level fighter in Quinlan because he didn't carry the same size and power at SM.
     
  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Murray looked poor throughout and still had Groves hurt at the end, Eubank is on another level stamina wise compared to both Groves and DeGale.
     
  9. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Murray was saved by the bell in that fight at least twice. Legs like spaghetti and outboxed most of the fight. But all you're picking up on is when Groves looked very tired and hurt at the end. Many were saying it was a contender for FOTY at that time and it went 12 rounds obviously he was going to be very tired.
     
  10. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Based on what???? He's only been 12 rounds once and he lost.

    He beat Chudinov in round 12 of a fight which should have been stopped many rounds earlier because of the accumulative one sided pasting he was dishing out.
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was it Murray's first fight at SMW as well? Like I said, I stand by my prediction.
     
  12. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    No, he stepped up after the GGG fight. He fought several times before the Groves fight including the Arthur Abraham fight.

    I'm a Murray fan. He's a big, strong middleweight who's lost them attributes stepping up to SM exactly like Eubank Jn in my opinion.

    He needs to step down and fight the best at middleweight.
     
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  13. yesihavearm2

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    As much as I don't rate Eubank, I would have to agree with the other guy that he has much better stamina than both DeGale, Groves and also Saunders.

    DeGale and Saunders in particular have very poor stamina, they can only fight their own style for 4-5 rounds max before gassing. Although DeGale does seem to get a 2nd wind during the 11th/12th rounds but Saunders does not.

    Look at the scorecards for their most recent fights for example, Saunders loses almost every round after round 6 vs both Lee and Eubank. DeGale wins the first 3-4 rounds virtually everyone he has faced and then loses all the middle rounds as his output drops.

    Groves perhaps isn't as bad stamina wise as those two but his stamina still isn't good, he has also has chin issues and some sort of mental block.

    I think all Groves/DeGale/Saunders are better boxers than Eubank but Eubank physically in terms of stamina and endurance is the best of the lot.
     
  14. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would love to see CEJ in with aleither Ricky Fielding or Paul Smith next as we would get an ideal level check in any such fight. From what I seen the other night at this moment any such fight I would not have him more than 50/50 to win at SMW at this very moment.
     
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  15. Twentyman

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    Totally agree with this mate. I'm convinced he wouldn't shine against them lads who are both a big step up from Quinlan.