Would Floyd beating Ward be up there with the likes of Ali-Foreman etc

If you won the lottery on the same day you got raped by a rabid rabbit in Grand Rapids, it would still be more likely than this fight even happening, let alone with Floyd winning. So, that should tell you it'd be a 10/10 victory if ever there was one.

 

pac lost to morales absolutely...then rematched and dominated. i'm not arguing their forms or dominance but their risk taking at this time. morales, barrera and marquez were all good enough to beat pac...and he fought them all multiple times.

pac brought marquez up to welter yes, so did floyd. but floyd had a clear advantage in every way. NO ONE gave marquez a chance against floyd but he is pac's kryptonite. pac fought a brutal counter puncher who had his number 4 times.

look, floyd has more skill, was more dominant and would destroy pac h2h.

pac has fought more truly elite competition in my opinion, took more risks and beat opponents who had clear edges over him. feel free to disagree. when has floyd ever been the underdog as pac was against barrera? or oscar? or even money as pac was against cotto?

he destroyed all of them.

 

If Floyd did this I would create a church built around things he said.during post fight interviews

 

-Pac was the favourite against Cotto and was only 2-1 underdog vs Oscar.

-Pac dominated against a Morales who was JUST DOMINATED. How is that anything great?

-He was a HEAVY favourite against Marquez in the 3rd fight cherrypick, and got dominated.

-Mayweather was the underdog against Corrales and dominated. Just because Floyd makes it look easy against everyone doesn't mean he didn't fight anyone.

-And saying "Marquez is Pac's kryptonite" doesn't help Pac's case, especially when trying to drag him up just like Floyd did. Difference being Floyd dominated and Marquez got waxed twice.

 

Pacquiao is the more skilled fighter and looks better on film.

 

and that's your opinion. i prefer pac's accomplishments and the context around his victories, you prefer floyd's. i think we've hit all the facts and i don't doubt yours.

we just have different interpretations of the events and the fighter's records

 

Those odds weren't my opinion, Jro. You asked if Floyd had ever faced those kinds of odds, so I told you

I think you must have been paying attention to general fight picks rather than actual fight odds? Because no way was Pac/Cotto even money.

 

Both excellent posts.

 

Excellent

 

Wait......Cotto looked great going into the Pacquiao fight? Let's be real here. A lot of people thought Clottey beat him up, before that Margarito beat his ass and Pac STILL forced a catchweight on Cotto. ..

 

At MW it would be a good victory but I'm not massively keen on fighters moving down on weight due to historic consequences.

If Floyd beat Guerrero, winner of Trout/Canelo at lmw, Sergio at MW and Ward at SMW I'd straight up call him the goat.

The Pac fight is dead but history will show it was only relevant for a couple of years and Floyd beat his would be conqueror. I dont even think Floyd will be remembered as a cherry picker because history will show near enough every significant victory of his was coming off arguably their most significant victory. I think he'll be remembered for his insane skil set and his dominance across multiple weights. The more weights he traverses and to more high ranked opponents he beats in the ring, and the longer his span at the top, the greater his legacy will be.

When did he beat that sfw dude now (I ain't disrespecting I've just completely forgot his name) was it 98/99 that's 14 years as a top fighter, nearly all of which he spent as number 1 in his division (barring his retirement and his stint at lww)

 

:!: sorry I didn't mean the odds were your opinion just that you rate Floyd higher than pac. that's why I said I don't doubt your facts. i'm sure the odds youre quoting are accurate... it's just how you interpret and analyze both of their careers that is opinion. same as how what I'm saying is just opinion

 

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Not biting.