Would Floyd/Pac in 09 have happened with Turki?

When Money talks …. “Money” listens

 

The answer is possibly YES but of course we will never know for sure.

Did Mayweather want it badly enough then even if the money was out of this world??

 

Great question.

It seems the likelihood of it coming off would’ve been that much greater - but in all possibility it still might not have manifested.

Had Turki been on the scene with the lure of obscene purses and the fight STILL didn’t come off - would that have made for an even stronger argument (than we have today) that PBF absolutely wanted no part of the streaking PAC in ‘09?

As it was, PBF clearly timed/aged PAC out imo.

 

Reaching is saying anyone who enters the ring is scared of another man. The bout was always going to be what it turned out to be. Pacs output dropped against Marquez who has a good defense but is more stationary than Floyd. Of course it was going to drop against Floyd who moves more. It was a huge loss for boxing that it didn’t happen in 09 but both sides are to blame. They wanted the most money possible.

 

Nope. Floyd was dead set against that version of Pac.

 

Floyd literally retired in 2008 to duck Pacquiao and Margarito and Amir Khan and Miquel Cotto and Lidocaine and Maidana horsehair gloves.

I seen the video of him crying about how Pac rolled Cotto. That was fear.

Sorry Floyd you may be great and one of the best technical boxers of all times but ain't changing the facts that you didn't want no smoke and always had the heavy A-side advantage.

Floyd would not step into a boxing ring with Pacquiao in 2007-09 even on an unfair playing field never mind fair.

 

No. Hate to say it but Floyd and Bob Arum both had business plans to exhaust all financial options before making that fight. They marinated the fight to exhaustion and the risk unfortunately paid off. As long as they were selling 1+ million PPVs there was no rush from either side to get it done.

 

That's your definition of reaching......lol. Cute.....

Not sure how your comprehension suggested I claimed someone was scared of another fighter. The risk reward factor became a priority for Floyd once he became the A side for his career. Knowing who to fight and when to fight them. If Floyd wanted someone in the ring, they were in the ring with him. It's hilarious to think that anyone shared the ring with Floyd that he didn't care to have there. Yea, some things can be blamed on other parties, specifically Manny, but if Floyd would have wanted that fight in 2009.....THE FIGHT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

 

They thought they’d make more money without fighting each other in their primes.They would have thought the same with Turki around I think.

I don’t think “fear” of a fight has much to do with it, they both have taken and had tough fights in their careers, and it’s part of what makes them ATG fighters… Just a fear of lost earning potential, I suppose.

I honestly expected Floyd’s retirement to be all about coming back and fighting Pac within 2 fights… so it was disappointing to be wrong about that.

 

Same thing can be said for Pacman, he chose his opponents as well. As someone said above, they made sure they got their money fighting Margarito, Bradley, Maidana, Guerrero etc. if they had fought in 09 one of them would not have gotten those paydays. If you’re saying they didnt fught because of Floyd prioritizing business I can agree with that, but some fans make it seem like floyd was going to die in the ring back in 09. That’s just silly.

 

By the time floyd was the a side he was already an atg what are you talking about. Same could be said about Pac .

 

You claiming you can agree with me saying that "Floyd prioritizing business", which is all I was saying, yet, you are still debating me and claiming I'm saying things I CLEARLY did not say.

I literally pointed out that Floyd being the A side, structured his career going forward so that he could maximize his profit every time he got in the ring. Knowing the big names to put on his resume and the best times to do it. There were money fights with low risk out there for him. His resume has him fighting HOF'ers, which he gets a pat on the back for, but those who know the sport know he didn't fight the best versions of Sugar Shane, Canelo, DeLaHoya, Manny, etc... They were still world class opponents, just not in their prime.

Stop deflecting by pointing out that the same could be said about Manny.... Of course it could. Manny being the A side was more willing to fight Bradley 3x, but didn't want to face Crawford once. But Manny wasn't the A-Side for a Floyd match up. Floyd had the keys to that car and it wasn't going to start up until Floyd put the keys in the ignition.

It has nothing to do with fear. At that point in your career, why take risks you don't have to when you can get an ultimate profit in a low risk bout. When it came out that Manny had shoulder surgery and wanted a rematch after the Floyd/Berto bout, you don't think people would have given them the same numbers to see a better fight.......... Floyd instead decided to go on a traveling circus show with McGregor and give him his only loss in his only boxing bout and make more money than any of his other fights not name Manny.

It was ALL BUSINESS. Floyd was the ultimate business man the second half of his career. Look at what he did for Tank Davis.......that dude has fought NO ONE, yet he has this claim for being the face of the sport. And it's hard to argue that with the #'s he's bringing in.

 

Mayweather and PAC were making huge money whilst not fighting each other. The money would have had to be absolutely insane to pull this off. I guess if Mr Excellency wanted it, there's a good chance it would have happened though.

 

Mayweather was right to be suspicious of Pac's PED use, but he's also clearly a PED cheat. I think he was more prepared to fight 'clean' there though as he wasn't relying on power like Pac.
Probably they both ducked in one way or another. Nobody wanted to take the loss. Warrior boxers, but they do have feelings.

 

Floyd was good at enough to beat Pac even with Pac on full on roids…

Floyd robbed everyone of that.