Would Frazier have a long reign

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  1. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if he was a cruiserweight today?
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Nah, anyone who establishes dominance at cruiserweight pretty quickly wants to step up to heavyweight.

    I'm sure he'd go up to heavy fairly soon.
     
  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He'd have been another version of Holyfield. Stepping up and taking on the big boys. Would have been interesting.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Frazier was one beating away from past-prime, always.

    Would take a hell of a man to do it though.
     
  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Except with a genuine, heavyweight hook. Evander never quite got to that level of power imo.


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  6. McGrain

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    Both of those things? Not at all. One beating doesn’t past prime every fighter.
     
  7. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess what I meant is, any fighter in his prime (most especially heavyweights) run the risk (with every fight) of being considered past their prime once they receive a good beating. And that good beating could happen anytime, given the relative instablility of the heavyweight division in the past four decades in particular.
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    Lewis was considered past it that after each of his knockouts....however, he more than proved us wrong by winning the title four freekin' times.
     
  8. Fergy

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    Yep hed have being more powerful and maybe seemed more impressive initially as he stepped up, that I agree on. Not sure he'd have been around as long as Holy tho, his style of fighting never seems to be as successful for heavy s over a long period. I'd say he gets at least 4 OR 5 years at the top before he slips.
     
  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    I think Joe might have run into Shavers at some point in the early 80s and even then Earnie was extremely dangerous.

    I just can't see Joe taking that right hand (including that near-Foreman-level uppercut).

    It might have made Earnie a champ at the time.
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Alot of guys took it. Who did Shavers ever beat that had a chin and toughness like Joe Frazier? On the flip side of that coin what makes you think Shavers can take much of anything from Joe? Between the two of them Shavers had the inferior chin.
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    Great points. It's just that Frazier's swarming style seems pretty perfect for Earnie. I could be wrong.

    FOTC Frazier would have mopped the floor with Shavers.