Would Frazier have stopped Jarrell Miller the same way he stopped Mathis?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    From what I know of both men ..Frazier wears him down and destroy s him in 10 .
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Chisora fought similar to Joe v Whyte except far slower, but if Whyte caught Joe with the hook that caught Chisora he would knock him out, he`s a big puncher.
     
  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I doubt a one trick guy like Whyte could drop a peak Frazier let alone keep him down for a 10 count, especially considering Foreman hit a past prime Joe with everything he had and couldn't knock him out, even though there's no disputing his left hand is a big punch.

    Chisora fought similar to Joe minus the punch accuracy, elusiveness (not that Joe wasn't hittable but he's less hittable than Derek), elite body attack, workrate, endurance, speed, skill and power. Chisora is a journeyman version of Frazier and he arguably won the first fight and was winning the second until he was caught.

    Dillian Whyte caught Joseph Parker and AJ with pretty similar shots to the one that iced Chisora and Browne and they survived and badly hurt Whyte afterwards.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Frazier`s body attack against Ali in their first fight would have destroyed Whyte, but if Whyte hit Joe as many times as Foreman did, he`d knock him out, Joe was gone with George it was brutal.
     
  5. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you think Whyte has more power than George?

    I seriously doubt that though he undoubtedly hits hard with that short left hook. Foreman had legitimate two handed power and a brutal uppercut (either hand again) that he exploited against Joe, neither of which I think Dillian has.

    That said I'm a Whyte fan and am enjoying his run at the moment. I'd like to see him in with Povetkin or Ortiz this year as they'd be really good matchups and I wouldn't be opposed to a Parker rematch either (if Parker can get a bit more mongrel in him I think he beats Whyte next time).
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Looks like the Miller fight may be off,he has just tested positive for GW1516 a banned substance,if confirmed in the B test he will be banned.Joshua v Ortiz? Kowanacki?
     
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  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    When they fought in the Olympics, Mathis was 295 and Frazier 196.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I want AJ vs Wilder...what's the hold up???? I blame you McVey!!!
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Blame that gutless chicken legged Wilder!
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No I don`t think Whyte hits harde than Foreman did, but that would be a lot of hooks Joe would be eating, George was punching him around like a rag doll.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    I think Miller has a good chin. And his energy level for his size is impressive. If Joshua doesn't bomb him early, he could be in for a tough fight in rounds 7-12. Possibly an upset win for Miller who has deceptively quick hands and an inside game.

    Remember Povetkin was out boxing Joshua for a while and buckled his knees.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Well it's doubtful it even happens, unless I've missed something over the last day or so
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    He's apparently tested positive for HGH as well.

    No surprise. Miller's long been an obvious over-user of anabolic drugs anyway. He looks almost like a powerlifter. He's maintaining about 50 pounds extra bulk than the other recognized heavyweights - and I doubt they are 100% clean either.

    I'm glad he got busted, just to educated people.
    If something looks suspicious, it usually is.
     
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  15. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Frazier smokes him, and he wouldn't need HGH and fatroids like hamburger over here to do it.