Would Fury dominate everyone that Wladimir Klitschko beat ?

I think Fury would destroy some of them but he has struggled with quite a few lesser guys. He has had to many ups and downs to be confident IMO. His weight gain and inactivity would factor in at some point.

I wouldn't rule it out completely but for me the chance is less than half he would hold on to the belts as long or longer than Wlad did.

 

I take your point about Fury's performances. Some of his efforts were decidedly underwhelming against modest opposition.

With that said, he still managed to accumulate a longer unbeaten run than Wlad ever mustered, and Fury was ultimately beaten at the end by a fine practitioner who is some light years ahead of any of Wlad's conquests.

I tend towards speculating that Fury's odds are better than evens.

 

The simple answer is no.

Fury is a headcase and hasn't got the mentality or dedication to stay in shape for a decade consistently beating ranked contenders.

 

I normally agree with your posts but in this case I don't.

After Fury won the title in 2015 he only fought 2 ranked opponents who were Wilder, Whyte.

Where as Wladimir beat something like 15 ranked opponents.

I think suggesting that a headcase like Fury could beat 5 times as many ranked opponents than he actually did in his own career over a decade long period is a huge stretch to say the least.

 

Over 50% of Fury's win since Klitschko is:
SEFERI
PIANETA
SChWARZ
WALLIN
NGANNOU

Wallin and Ngannou actually gave him hell.
Pianeta was one of Wlad's worst title challengers and even worse when he faced Fury, who performed worse than Wlad.
Schwarz, Ngannou and Seferi had no business being there really.

Fury's record is fairly pathetic.

 

That's fair enough, but I think it's important to be clear on what's actually being compared here. I'm not suggesting Fury could match Wlad's ranked opponent tally in his own career timeline. The assumption is that Fury is placed in Wlad's position - same era, same activity level, same conveyor belt of opponents - and asked to navigate that reign.

In these circumstances, the count of rated fighters becomes irrelevant, no?

If Fury had fought on Wlad's timetable, he'd naturally have picked up a similar number of 'ranked' opponents simply by virtue of the schedule. The real question is whether he could beat those same fighters.

And let's be honest, we're not exactly discussing a Murderers' Row here. Many of Wlad's rated opponents held such a rating because the pool was shallow. Someone has to be ranked, right?

The fighters Wlad beat during his uninterrupted run were: Byrd, Brock, Austin, Brewster, Ibragimov, Rahman, Chagaev, Chambers, Peter, Haye, Mormeck, Thompson, Wach, Pianeta, Povetkin, Leapai, Pulev, and Jennings (I think I got all of them).

Despite himself, Fury could certainly beat that list of fighters. Fury's size and awkward style alone would have made him a nightmare for most of them, and he'd only need to be fully tuned in for a handful of these bouts, in my opinion.

For me, that makes it achievable, and the odds of him pulling it off better than even.

 

He had plenty of opportunity to do something similar his own era.

 

I think it's the 2.5 years out the ring and multiple layoffs rather than just the performances in the ring. Maybe this could be slightly different in that time line but we are still keeping Fury as Fury.

I agree Fury could make up for that if he was not lose the early fights Wlad lost like against Sanders and Brewster. And obviously to be fair he did face Uysk twice and made a decent account of himself assuming this time line means he doesn't face Vitali who he could face as Vitali and Fury wouldn't be brothers.

 

Yes, I wasn't looking at it from the perspective of shoehorning Wlad's career into Fury's timeline. Never gonna happen.

Rather, I was viewing this oppositely and straightforwardly through the lens of Fury piloting his way through Wlad's schedule and timeline.

I was also focused more on Wlad's major, uninterrupted championship reign - from and including Byrd II to Jennings - not his WBO run.

 

I think he would struggle with a few of them that Wlad dominated like Haye or Tony Thompson but most he should win if he's in good form but with Fury that's never a guarantee.

 

If we’re talking Fury in Wlad’s era against Wlad’s championship opponents, I think he could do it - everything else is a different debate entirely.

 

Quite a few greats could have gone in and wiped wlads win list clean on their “ best” nights. The problem is that most periods of “ best “ only last about 3-4 years. Whatever shortcomings Wladimir Klitschko had, his consistency and ability to age slowly weren’t among them.

 

He would dominate them all it his best, but he wasn't very consistent.

On one of his off nights he could loose to some of them, and the schedule being asked of him woudl have been totally unrealistic.

 

Like a think we all know Fury at his best is a handful for anyone.

However he was not disciplined and too inactive. He would lose fights along the way. He could be unmotivated at times.