Would Gennady Golovkin and Marvin Hagler be food for Roy Jones ?

Not Hagler. No way.

 

The RJJ that fought Hopkins is, very possibly, the most overrated fighter in history.
If you think that Hagler is slow, you haven't seen enough Hagler. And Hagler would not be afraid of Jones, there would be no hesitation in his game. Hagler paid his dues coming up and he had a cast iron chin. Whatever else happened in the ring that night, Hagler would makes Jones fight. Neither one of them believed that it was possible for them to lose and Hagler went through the iron to gain that belief while Jones fought Serwano. I never saw anything in the career of RJJ that led me to believe that he had the heart to get through a tough fight with a guy like Hagler.
GGG would give Jones trouble with his jab and, again, he had a rock solid chin and would not be afraid to mix with Jones. GGG wasn't as good as Hagler but, again, he wouldn't fight scared. He could hurt you with either hand. He would be at a disadvantage against Jones when it comes to hand speed but you can neutralize that with solid timing and a good jab.
I have said this many times over the years, but the Hopkins v RJJ fight was not a great, or even good fight. There was no spectacular demonstration of skill in that fight by either party. In the 1940s or 1950s, it was an 8 round fight at Madison Square Garden. I have said for years that I never believed that RJJ had the heart to be in a hard fight and win. Both Hagler and GGG would show up in peak condition, determined to impose their will in the fight and Jones isn't going to pot shot either of them out of there. His chin will get tested and so will his willingness to persevere when the other guy is trying to win.

 

Same sort of argument I have been making for years around here.

 

Ok but Hagler is really very slow you cant deny this especially in comparison to Jones Jr.

 

Yeah thats more accurate

 

Personally I think this is a misconception from the Mugabi bout. Watch Hagler's early career, especially his pre title run. Marvelous also had great reaction speed and decision making abilities which imo is far more important than hand or foot speed, especially with a well developed technical style that Hagler had.

 

Jones’s last middleweight performance when he destroyed Thomas Tate was sensational. If he hadn’t outgrown the division and kept that sort of form he’d have dominated that weight class for a decade. But RJJ was a belt chaser.

Hagler is a tough fight for anyone including Jones. A guy with his skills, conditioning and power is too much for most middleweight boxers in history. Jones may outspeed him and people forget prime RJJ legs and reflexes were some of the best in history. He was freakish. That said Hagler most definitely makes him dig deep.

GGG gets schooled and made to look like hes fighting in quicksand. The Daniel Jacob’s fight made me realise the GGG wasnt any sort of monster. Merely a good, solid fighter with a nice jab and a great chin who had a padded record. Jones would 120-108 him imo.

 

The Antonio Traver fight made me realise the Jones wasnt any sort of monster. Merely a good, solid fighter who had speed and flash who had a padded record. Prime Golovkin would knock him out.

 

Hagler stops Roy in the later rounds. Roy beats GGG.

 

Nice try lol

 

Neither MMH or GGG are easy nights for anyone.
Both have very sound fundamentals and are extremely hard to hurt.
RJJ is actually much better as he goes higher in weight, he was really more comfortable at SMW and up. It might be worth considering that here, instead of mixing memories of him at higher weight and applying it against these two.
Roy is a bigger man than either, especially so against Hagler. That matchup would be an odd duck, if Roy had to weigh in same day I think Hagler murders him. However if he can follow the modern rules he would be significantly heavier while still retaining his speed and reflexes.
I think both Hagler and Golovkin have the power to hurt and potentially stop Jones. However I think it very unlikely they would do so. Jones would have to be cautious of this though.
I would expect more often than not Roy wins on points, he could perhaps stop Hagler on a cut but I don’t see either MMH or GGG really being at risk of a KO loss here.
As I said if he has to actually fight Marvin at middleweight with same day weigh in he takes a beating, if they fought with modern rules MMH probably would at most fight at LMW. I hate the modern weigh in rules and what they have done to boxing, and hypothetical matchups, more than just about any other change, although I also miss the 15 round fights.

 

There's a direct correlation between GGG and RJJ at this point. Can you see what it is?

 

Short answer is NO

 

Nope.

One guy stayed at home ruling an ordinary division and “tested” himself against blokes coming up divisions all the while avoiding the real tests a division up.

The other won titles from middleweight to heavyweight often giving away height, reach and weight. I see a marked difference in their careers tbh.

In saying that there’s nothing wrong with ruling one division. Hopkins did it for years too. That said GGG was ranked P4P 1 for about 10 months in 2017-18. RJJ was P4P 1 for about 10 years. So no real correlation at all.