Would George Foreman have had a realistic chance vs Lewis circa 1998

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I read somewhere that Foreman's wife didn't want him to fight Lennox Lewis.
     
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  2. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    That's probably for the best. If Foreman had gotten the decision against Briggs he would have fought a guy like Botha or maybe a freak show bout with Larry Holmes.
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think George would have beaten Lewis. But I think he would have performed better than many would expect. He actually looked sharper against Briggs than he had in years.
     
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  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    No George would have been dominated. Lewis would have his radar up respecting Foreman`s power. Lennox would box and pick Foreman apart. Glad this one never happened.
     
  5. JWSoats

    JWSoats Active Member Full Member

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    I recall Big George saying that he would not fight Lennox Lewis. His statement carried the implication that he knew he would not win. In fact, around that time he had said that Lennox Lewis was the best heavyweight he had ever seen. I have to go with the prevailing thought here - Big George in 1998 would have only a puncher's chance against Lewis. More likely it would be a sad ending to a great career.
     
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  6. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis would land every jab and right hand he threw with intent, horrible fight for Big George. I'd favor Lennox over a prime Foreman as well, styles make fights.
     
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  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Sad ending. Lewis had too much speed, power and skill. He'd probably KO Foreman, who wasn't very defensive inside 5 rounds, unless he felt his power and opted to play it safe.
     
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  8. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    I pick LL for probable UD and possibly a stoppage.

    However, if old Foreman could have KOd LL somehow at 49 yoa , he would have become larger than life.
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Not all his opponents were small.
    Coetzer.6'4"
    Stewart. 6'3"
    Cooney. 6'6"
    Jaco . 6'6"
    Ellis. 6'3"
    Jameson. 6'4"
    Savarese.6'5"
    Grimsley. 6'2"
    Briggs .6'4"
    Schulz . 6'3"
    Morrison. 6'2"
    That's basically a third of his 34 comeback opponents.
     
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  10. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    What George accomplished in his second run was astonishing .. methodically charting a course, going the distance in a respectable performance against a prime Holyfield, taking the bombs of a Morrison and a Briggs, both serious punchers and of course defeating Moorer however he would have been crushed by Lennox Lewis , he knew it and he never seriously even considered making such a fight. Like I have been writing on multiple threads as of late, how you chart your course impacts results of the journey .. If Foreman lacked the leverage his marketability afforded him and he desperately needed money he might have had to fight half a dozen guys along the way prior to Holyfield that would have seriously beat him up and our image of the proud and defiant Foremen never sitting between rounds would be replaced by a fat old man collapsed on a floor, a cross between the Willard of Toledo and Butterbean. Such is leverage for the fortunate few that have it and know how to maximize it.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    LOL
     
  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    which of these did he pursue? which ones were heavier? He did not target those guys. They were selected.

    I can go right through the sorry bunch on that list if you want and explain exactly why Foreman was able to use his celebrity and hand picked each and every last one of them. Do you want me to do that?

    The guys comeback George actively targeted were Holyfeild, Tyson and Moorer. All smaller than the bald one.
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Yes I think he has A very good chance
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Foreman put up a valiant effort against Holyfield, but was beaten pillar to post. Even though Holyfield was about 50 pounds smaller.

    He's lucky he didn't meet Mike Tyson, especially the 1986-1991 version. I'm convinced that the Tyson who beat up Razor Ruudock would've done the same to old Foreman.

    In the Moorer fight, it was more Michael Moorer losing than George Foreman winning. I heard he refused to rematch Moorer.
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Oh Tyson would have flattened him..and at that time George probably even knew that anyway.

    I believe initially all he wanted was to do was make money. For his church.

    George had watched Joe Bugner, who was from his era, mount successful comebacks and realised what was obvious. That if Joe Bugner could do it (make a noise, win some fights, retire rich) then he couldn’t do any worse. So George copied Bugner.

    Bugner called out Tyson too. It all helped build gates for less important fights. Deep down I don’t think Bugner really had any real intention of fighting Tyson. He didn’t have to. Who can say Foreman really did?

    Circumstances allowed for Holyfeild to land the title, I do think George was twice as eager For a championship fight when that happened.

    It is interesting that when the title briefly passed to Bowe Foreman went very quiet.
     
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