Would GGG turn James Toney's LIGHTS OUT?

Based on..???

 

It is because it's too early.

You're only assuming what he's got in his locker.

There's too many unanswered questions to be even favouring him over a guy like Toney when he was at his best.

 

note the word "hyped".

note the lack of the words "that's why hes done so much"

 

What is it that people forget about Toney?
Do they not remember the Williams, Tiberi, Thadzi, Griffin fights or how he was behind against Nunn or the amount of SDs he fought to?

 

It's well documented that Toney had a few off nights during a busy schedule and he had weight issues as he got older. But we are looking here at a fantasy fight with Toney fighting at his full capabilities at MW.

So what if he was behind against Michael Nunn? It was a peak Nunn. You really have to look at all the negatives don't you, whilst ignoring all of the positives.

Could you imagine your response if I made a fantasy thread regarding Roy-Eubank, and I said that Roy would have won, based on Eubank struggling with Ray Close and losing to Collins etc?

How would that sit with you?

When Toney was motivated and sharp, he beat Nunn, Mcallum and Johnson etc.

Come back to me when GG's beaten anyone of that calibre.

 

No, Toney wasn't always fat with stamina issues.

He didn't possess the best movement?

Wow, with both of those ridiculous comments, you've just told me that you've never even seen Toney at his MW best.

Go and watch the McCallum fights etc.

Go and look at the level of skill that was on show.

 

Nothing wrong with a young, relatively green, contender to be behind on the cards after 10 against Michael Nunn. Nunn was an excellent fighter in his prime, and unfortunately, a huge waste of talent.

Toney was coming on strong in the previous 2-3 rounds, catching Nunn with good shots. Whenever someone acts like that KO was a hail mary, out-of-the-blue punch, or when Jim Lampley says "Toney was losing every round to Nunn before coming from behind to win", you know they either haven't seen that fight or have a poor recollection of it.

Toney had a good workrate, stamina, his movement wasn't bad, the problem was his inconsistency. More so at 160 than 168.

It's unlikely that a body attack will really slow Toney down, given that his ability to absorb body punches was up there among the best ever with Muhammad Ali. He didn't just take body punches well when they happened, but they didn't seem to slow them much for the long haul either.

If Toney is on his game, like he was in the first McCallum fight, then I'd pick him over GGG. The guys that trouble Toney more are the ones who guys who use more movement, who make Toney lead, make Toney chase them, have trickier styles, etc..

I suppose you can say Toney was green and still "learning on the job", but Reggie Johnson dropped and hurt Toney and took 4-5 rounds from him. McCallum beat Toney the 2nd time around IMO. McCallum wasn't the most mobile but he was tough to catch clean, tricky, just a great fighter. In addition to being an ATG fighter, Jones was super fast, mobile, used the ring, a great counterpuncher. Montell Griffin had a weird, unusual style, more of a counterpuncher, liked to make Toney lead.

Toney excelled against aggressive fighters who left openings. The guys who used more movement and angles, had tricky styles, weren't as aggressive, made Toney lead, were the ones Toney had more issues with.

 

:deal

 

Toney beats him.I would also pick Nunn and Mc Callum over GGG.

GGG is one of my favourite fighters and the next undisputed middleweight king.It is just that the competition nowadays is not very good.

 

He did and your'e right.

NTM, JLOT had the best defensive technique of his day.

Toney would slip slip slip all night, only getting hit by the jab and the occasionally L hook upstair and the frequent, but often ineffective hooks to the body. Again, due to Toney's D.

However, Toney would be on D far too long to mount any sort of counter offense, and while he would land some hard counters throughout the fight, GGGs footwork and ring smarts would keep him at range to land the jab and scoring hooks downstairs.

Toney would actually take a few rds, but he wouldnt be in the fight at any point past the 3rd rd.:good

 

You don't watch Boxing do you hahahha

 

This is a joke question.

 

I like toney butt ggg would be too strong for him.