Would Hatton have beaten Oscar quicker than Pac

Pac was heavier that night (according to HBO). And DLH was not able to impose his size, simply because his trainers and dietitians ****ed up. (and thats letting DLH off with the rumor that he was so lazy in training.)

DLH took this fight too lightly and failed miserably. While Pac trained with all his might to somehow make the big jump in weight easier for him.

Both were realitively at ease with their agreed weight weeks before the fight. The problem was more because of what happened in training.

 

At no point did I contradict myself.

I said Oscar and Pac were PRACTICALLY the same weight.

Earlier, I said Pac was the bigger man.

There is no contradiction there and if you see one, it illustrates a lack of understanding of the meaning of words.

Again, in simple terms so that even you will get it:

Someone mentioned that Oscar did not impose his size.

I responded that he had no size advantage to impose .

As a matter of fact, he was technically the smaller man.

And for those who wanted to introduce water and dehydration and rehydration, I explained that, while that might normally be the case, in this case it wasn't, as both men weighed in at the weight they werre to meet at and neither Rehydrated.

Oscar had a size advantage when he signed for the fight but for whatever reason or strategy, he gave it up and gave up the advantage normally bigger men have by weighing in on the previous day.

They were about equal size for the fight, and technically, Oscar was the smaller man.

No genius. I've already explained to you that height is NOT the determiner of size, not even in a tie-breaker situation.

As you say, it isn't rocket science. i'm at a loss as to why you can't grasp this.


Oscar WAS the bigger man, but for reason known only to himself, he gave up that advantage and that was what most were counting on him to use to win the fight, me included.

When that was gone, the outcome was less of a surprise.



I did accord Pac all due credit as I have been a fan sice Barerra (1) and Imoved him to #1 p4p on my list.

All of my involvement in this thread was in response to the question of why Oscar didn't impose his size.

My point: On that night, he had no size to impose.


A better question might have been: Why did he not bring that extra size advantage he usually had, with him into that fight ?

 

Actually, I was talking about anyone at WW. My son is as big as him. Oh, I did give him props for a good performance at the end of my post. He was weight drained period. That is my stand until he performs like that at a higher weight with let's say Chavez, Jr.

 

This is very close to what I've been saying for some time.

Right after the fight and again in this thread.

 

But if it was Hatton facing Oscar, how do you think it would have played out? considering Pac is more like a boxer puncher now, compared to Ricky being a Brawler-puncher. My take is that if DLH gets lazy and overconfident, he gets demolished by Hatton. But i doubt he will be less prepared since Pac jumping 2 divisions to fight him is less threatening than Hatton moving up a single division. DLH wont be as confident, and will most likely train harder and give a better fight than what he did with Pac.

 

Hatton would of won at the later rounds,11 r 12! I hope Hatton & Manny face each other early next year....Hatton to win by ko in a war of 2 champions!!

 

If he had used the same strategy and come in at the same weight, he would have been hard pressed to get by Hatton either.

Although, to be fair, Pac is a much better boxer than Hatton and landed much better and cleaner than Ricky would have.

Ricky would have found out early that Oscar was not any stronger than he was and would have moved forward on him. He would have eaten more leather than Pac did, but in the inside, he would have fought like he did with Tszyu.

I think Ricky would have taken the decision.

Not that it matters much, but the Oscar of 2000 or 2001, weighing in at 147 and coming in at 157, would have demolished any version of Pac or Ricky in under five rounds.

 

I'm getting a bit ****ed off with this ****. Oscar was beaten by the scales before he stepped through the ropes. Good performance by Pac, but any top 10 welter would have murdered Hoya that night. Your location just about says it :good

 

No, Hatton would not have finished Oscar and would've just taken a UD.

 

I agree, i dont think Pac had any business at 147, except that Roach did work with dela hoya, and probably knew what to take advantage of. Pac's maximum weight (i'm assuming again) is probably 140lbs. Fighting the best 140lber hopefully will give us a great fight!:bbb

 

hatton ko oscar in 3 round

 

So, if Nallege is Amsterdam, is Mijares still god Nallege or is it Amsterdam?

 

Hatton could have beaten DLH in 1 round or 12 rounds
Same case with DLH over HATTON.

Pbf could have beaten PAC in 1 round or 12 rounds
Same case as PAC beating PBF?!

We are free to imagine!!!!

To bad! Imagining will NEVER be the same as the REAL thing!

 

Yes of course hatton has better power, like i have said previously Dela Hoya was not right for that fight so stop praising Manny for it, yes Manny is a great fighter but i just would discount the Dela Hoya fight.

 

of course u would think that considering ur from london