Would Hatton have beaten the DLH that Pac beat on that night?

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Answer the question, please. It'd be nice.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Hello....Location :UK. :lol:

    Just kidding.
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Dude....pages only a couple ago I said DLH probably could along w/ my reasons. :deal
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Don't get me started on that one. I get accused of being Mexican, and now I'm being accused of favoring British fighters? You haven't been here long, have you?

    The only two fighters in recent memory that Manny has completely dominated every minute of every round is both David Diaz and Oscar De La Hoya. Every single factor indicates to Oscar being weight drained. Has not been at 147lb for 7 years, came in to the ring at exactly 147lb (never happened before), was unable to perform and as a early as the first round, could not get his shots off. Are we supposed to believe that Manny is so much faster than Both Mayweather and Mosley?
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    nope. i said that hatton could have beaten oscar that night but not without geting tagged by oscar's jabs. now tell me, how would hatton avoid them?

    and is it a coincidence that you like barrera that you play down every pac win?
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I take it you stopped reading before the "KIDDING" part. Been here since 03.

    It seems way more people talk about DLH's weight then actually talk about the tactics Hatton would use. Bringing up Floyd and Shane has NOTHING to do with Hatton BTW.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Surely I would play down every Morales and Marquez win also by your logic.

    Pacquiao got a great win against Marco, but nobody is going to convince me he beat a peak Morales and healthy Oscar. Oscar's jab was missing the target not because of the elusiveness of Pacquiao, but because his timign was all off. He couldn't get his shots off at all, he couldn't close the distance because he was completely drained. It suits your agenda fine to ignore it, but we all witnessed it mate.

    Hatton would close the distance himself, and take a few shots with nothing behind them, before working to the body and head, battering a weak and frail 147lb Oscar...who would soon enough quit on his stool.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I want you to admit that Oscar was unable to get his shots off, because if you admit that, then how is he supposed to beat Ricky Hatton?
     
  9. Taffyy

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    I think it was a combination of Manny being right on his game & DLH being very weight drained , either is bad enough but together you get the embarresment that resulted.
    Love or hate Oscar he has always got in the ring with the best & personally I was saddened to see him go out like that.
    I cant see the version of manny who got in the ring tha night being any different to the one who will come in against Hatton , afterall this is as big a fight if not bigger...??
    Basically we will find out soon enough.
     
  10. radab

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    Allow me....

    Ricky would have taken that corpse down in four. First round he would have felt him out. Second still wary of the old familiar Oscar, but starts to realise Oscar cant throw back. Third the mauling begins, fourth it's all over.
     
  11. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In terms of foot speed and being able to move in and out and side to side, absolutely.
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    You want me to admit what now?!? I've said from beginning, Pac's jumping 'in and out' of range darting defense in the fight did it's part to make DLH look bad as well. Do you deny that?
     
  13. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with that. Hatton is easily a bigger test, although some of that assertion comes with hindsight.

    All I'm saying is that grouping Manny with PBF, Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Berto, Collazo, Judah, and at the time, Margarito, is a pretty select group of boxers, especially for a fighter moving up two divisions. It's different from Williams moving up to 160 and being grouped with Choc Mundine or Giovanni Lorenzo.

    Maybe all the top WWs would have crushed Oscar that night, but Hatton would be near the bottom of that group. And Hatton is so different of a fighter from Manny, that assuming the fight would follow even remotely the exact same course seems silly. When did Pacquiao become so feather fisted that we're supposed to think all the straight lefts he was bouncing off of Oscar's head had nothing to do with Oscar's physical state?
     
  14. klion22

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    I think the question in this fight would be, "Can DLH hurt or at least get Hatton's attention when he lands?" If he can't, then i can see Hatton breaking down DLH as the fight goes on. But if DLH's left hook does get Hatton's attention, it might be a different fight.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    wow! i wonder who has the agenda here? i am offering an explanation why oscar couldn't land a meaningful punch. that pacquiao has something to do with it. if you completely ignore this, you only think of this fight one way. oscar wins this if he's ok, and will lose this if he is not. how convenient?

    i do not blame you. you predicted an oscar demolition of pac and after the reverse happened, you will fail to give credit to pac because you cannot accept that a former flyweight beat oscar.