would have been tyson(with rooney) undefeated in the era of marciano?

highly unlikely. anything can happen in boxing. an underdog gets motivated wins when he isn't supposed to (douglas) or the champ gets lazy (lewis against rahman). an underdog times the perfect punch (cooper) and seriously hurts a guy with a granite chin. ali never went down against shavers, foreman, lyle, liston but cooper almost knocked him out.

it's very easy to write off a 49-0. it's a lot harder to actually do it. only one man has done it. by the way, i wouldn't put money on it, but it's very possible for charles & walcott to outbox tyson. they are definitely live contenders. *competitively* going 13 brutal rounds with marciano is a hell of an accomplishment. literally.

 

he didn't have the longevity to be undefeated in any era. and Tyson would never be with Rooney or D'mato his entire career, he just wouldn't. It wouldn't matter if he faced all of rocky's opponents, eventually he would just be a puncher who would lose to SOMEONE that he shouldn't have. I don't know who.

Prime Tyson plows through all of them, but he wouldn't be prime for 49 bouts and I really don't think he would be with Rooney or D'mato for that long either.


EDIT: I take that back. Maybe he could be undefeated in the 2000s where he ducks every top dog like Haye.

 

I generally agree, though he wouldn't need to be prime for all 49 fights, as Marciano wasn't.

Tyson would have done just fine. He'd be undefeated. I'd even bet on him to stick around, whip Johansson and then Patterson.

I'd read somewhere that a comeback was imminent and it would be against Ingo, when a failing back and lack of commitment to punishing himself again put a stop to it.

 

fair enough. lennox and tyson landed some of their their *career best shots* against granite chinned holyfield but couldn't knock him down. bert cooper did it with one punch. it's hard to predict boxing perfectly and that is why it is so fun to watch. in tyson's career in the 50s, something IS going the way it is NOT supposed to.

 

:rofl

oliver was also on crack.

jk. i accept what you're trying to say about cooper.

 

I'm talking about a past prime 90s Tyson who just wouldn't train and would lack the motivation based on how easy these guys are for Tyson. he would lack the consistency.
I don't know who he he would get beat by but i think someone would just outbox a slower not inshape Tyson to a decision. a lot of the time during the 90s he just looked like **** until his punch saved him

is Tyson born under the same circumstances? with the drugs? jail? etc? Since Tyson had a longer career he doesn't get to fight rocky's opponents as a shot fighter. Still sluggish and beatable though.

I wonder if Tyson gets weights and the same kind of training he got before. This whole thing is flawed. 80s Tyson walks through them though. too perfect

 

All good points, Combat. But you must remember. to truely duplicate what Marciano did. Tyson would have to win the Championship at age 29. hold it for four years, then retire undefeated.
At that stage i'm not so sure Tyson could hunt down & stop Walcott or Charles. Also a naturally smaller man, moving up( Holyfield) did stop this version of Iron Mike...

 

He never said anything about Tyson's age. I think Tyson can definitely do it. He ate up the smaller heavyweights.

 

He'd have to beat Hall of fame guys like Louis Walcott Charles and Moore

could he beat all of them? in 15 rounders? thats a tough order

and if he does Patterson Ingo Liston are right around the corner

 

I see tyson loosing to lastarza and maybe even being worked over by a past prime louis.

i also see tyson having to work alot more for some of those KO's instead of just smothering his way to tko's.