Would Haye's odds be shorter or longer if they were to rematch in England?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Rob887, Jul 2, 2011.


  1. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hate David Haye and I loved seeing him outclassed. I've never shyed away from my dislike of him. he's a ****, and if he wasn't British most people on here would hate him too.

    That said, I can divorce myself from judging him as a boxer. And yes, most of the Brit forum were rubbishing his opponents, I can't use the search option now, but have a look for yourself when it resumes. Wlad doesn't get half the respect he deserves here. And I'm saying that as a non-Wlad fan. I hope he loses his next fight, for the sake of the division. I like him as a person, as a boxer, he's completely boring.
     
  2. Vano-Irons

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    No point in a rematch. It'll be the same outcome. I don't like him, but Wlad's jab is just too effective. I thought Haye would win, but the closer the fight got the more I started to doubt it tbh. Simply, Haye just isn't THAT good. He was beaten by a far better fighter unfortunately. I still think there's a place for him in the division, but he seems hell bent on retiring in October, so it doesn't really matter.

    In summary, very good CW, half decent HW at a time when the division is in a bad state. Haye Toe EVT 12.
     
  3. Pecsaetan

    Pecsaetan It's egg in soup! Full Member

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    Why are you telling me to search for people on the British forum rubbishing his opponents? I said they did in my previous post. I'm not denying this forum rubbished his opponents, I'd rubbish them now, and if you did a search you'd find many, in this forum, the general, type it on google and find it everywhere. It's not a very controversial statement to say that Wlad has had an easy time of it.

    I think you'd find most people on here respect him as a very good boxer, just very ****ing boring. It's the same opinion as everyone else in the world. People aren't so different!
     
  4. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So David Haye is just another nobody in Wlads resume? True of false?
     
  5. Rob887

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    Really? I thought Haye handled it quite well.
     
  6. Pecsaetan

    Pecsaetan It's egg in soup! Full Member

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    False, because I think Haye is Wlad's best win. Did you even read my previous posts? Haye got beaten comfortably, it was a **** fight, Haye was the most dangerous opponent Wlad has had in about 5 years, take what you want from that about the state of the heavyweight division, Wlad knew it was dangerous, Haye was in the fight until the end, most others weren't.
     
  7. Manning

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    Irrelevant question, Haye was been utterly neutered as a HW contender. If he is to get a shot at a title again, well then this time he will actually have to beat 2 top 10 HW's to earn his shot this time.

    Right now Haye is behind in the rankings to
    Wlad
    Vitali
    Adamek
    Chambers
    Povetkin
    Helenius
    chagaev

    all of those can't even be questioned, right now Haye is in with the mix with Dimitrnko, Arreola, Pulev, Thompson, Solis, Peter, J C Gomez and the like.
     
  8. Rob887

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    I tend to agree, but at the end of the day it's all about money and if Haye is still a draw he'll get the fights. Whether or not he can still pull an audience is another matter. Anyway, he's supposed to be retiring:hey so all this is irrelevant.
     
  9. Manning

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    He will fight the winner of Fury/Chisora next or Vitali the way I see it, he certainly fights again anyway.
     
  10. Rob887

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    Joking aside, if he does fight again, he's not going to walk straight into the Vitali fight.
     
  11. Rob887

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    Have you ever met him?
     
  12. ImElvis666

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    Yeah, he's really a sensitive soul.
     
  13. Manning

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    Psychologically knowing Haye it's the only fight he would truly want. I'll give Haye one major plus after his Wlad 'performance'. Psychologically he truly believed he was going to win. It's not often you see a weigh in where both fighters were 100% ready both physically and mentally, that was clear for all to see yesterday.
     
  14. Akxtinguish

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    In a rematch I'd expect Wlad to KO him. He was too tentative last night and beat Haye with the jab alone. He definitely could have thrown some more right hands and Haye would have eventually been out of there.

    Solis, Chisora and Arreola would all be potentially more exciting matches because Haye might actually try to take it to them.
     
  15. Scottish

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    Longer cause no one would belive the hype this time.