Would heavyweights from the 90`s destroy modern heavies?

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  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Stiverne and Martin are horrible but they'd beat these two. I'd take some of the prospects in the current scene like Joyce, Dubois and Hrgovic to utterly destroy those two bums and run 90s fools like Old George, Moorer, Bowe, Morrison to the wire. Wilder and Joshua to go life and death with Holyfield and Lewis.
     
  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    You think you can talk sh it and not get called out for it? Okay then.
     
  3. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that's not talking **** ass hole... good grief. Go take your meds, smoke a joint, get a shiatsu, and get laid FFS...
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, and Holyfield would leave a trail of broken bodies in their wake.
     
  5. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    So I destroy your BS but I'm the one who needs meds. Logic is not your forte, is it?
     
  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    90s Tyson was a spent force.
    Bowe was a fat man that was retired at 29 by a Polish truck driver
    Holyfield a roided up cruiser that struggled with above fat man.
    Lewis had his chin wrecked twice in the 90s by fringe men but let's ignore this.
     
  7. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not at all... Today's HW's are bigger, faster, stronger, have new training techniques, nutrition, etc... the only thing the Old HW's match up with the new ones are their heart and determination.... thats about it.. and everyone knows thats not enough to win a fight. Boxing "experts" tend to look back at boxing's history with Rose Colored Glasses...
     
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  8. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    This is exactly what I was thinking. Compare those four with Wilder, Joshua, Povetkin and Klitschko with all 8 on their best nights and fight a mythical round robin. It’s damn near impossible to see the new four not losing the majority of the fights.
     
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  9. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    the modern guys win. Even somebody as clumsy as Wilder can destroy 95 percent of the 90's roster.

    Bomb squad!!
     
  10. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The elite of the division involving AJ and Wilder is up there with the greatest of all time. Both of them easily beat the likes of Roidyfield, Tua and Mercer. Only Lennox Lewis and later the Klitschkos were elite from the 90s onwards

    However once you get outside of that the depth is poor. We really need some new blood, perhaps Usyk and Gassiev can step up.

    It’s definrely getting stale..,
     
  11. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Brittard
     
  12. MarcelCerdan13

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    no one has an easy night with either Klitschko, Fury, Joshua, Wilder, and probably prime Ortiz and Povetkin. But other than that I think it's pretty lopsided in favor of the 90s.
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anytime you pick against Windmills, its personal for him.
     
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  14. Robney

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    I'd certainly favor the guys from the 90's over the current crop. Only question is, would they be able to use the contaminated meat or supplement excuse once their drugtests come in?!
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I am not a real big fan of matching up different fighters from different era's. In all honesty we really don't know who would of won with any real certainty. We can speculate, break down styles, strengths and weaknesses but in reality it's all just guess work. If it was that easy to always pick a winner all hardcore boxing fans would be millionaires from all the winnings we make from betting on boxing.

    Which is why when I rate a fighters greatness I put more weight and validity in their achievements than who I think would of won head to head because as I said we can only guess at who would win.

    I also don't agree with the idea that modern fighters are automatically better than their predecessors. Boxing isn't athletics. Just because athletes have gotten faster, stronger, better conditioned over time doesn't mean every boxer has and even if they have it doesn't mean they are better boxers just because they are better athletes. I mean is Andy Ruiz Jr in better shape than prime Evander Holyfield? Obviously not, you have to account for individuals, the best conditioned boxers today are likely better the best of the past but there will be plenty of modern day fighters who can't match some fighters from the past.

    Also look what Foreman and Holmes did late in their careers. They came from the 70's and 80's era but were able to compete with the 90's guys despite being past prime. Why couldn't the 90's guys do the same in the current era? Wlad fought in the 90's era and the early 00's and honestly back then he wasn't good enough, but went onto dominate for a decade. Was it just that he got better or was it also that the era he was in got worse, probably a bit of both.

    As to 90's heavyweights to the current division. I will say the talent pool now is worse now. Lets be honest many of the best young, big, strong athletes now in the US are not looking to become the next Ali or Tyson, they want to be the next Michael Jordan, the next Tom Brady etc. Wilder himself never even wanted to be a heavyweight boxer, Joshua too started off doing other sports, they fell into boxing late, they were not sculpted into fighters from their early teens like Tyson and Lewis.

    I wouldn't pick Joshua, Wilder, Povetkin or Ortiz over Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, Holyfield. They'd be competitive but I'd favour the 90's guys. The next tier guys like Moorer, Mercer, Bruno, Hide etc, they would be competitive with even beat a few of them.
     
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