Would heavyweights from the 90`s destroy modern heavies?

My thoughts on that.

PEDs and nutrition in the 90s were already at the highest level, it's easy to explain.

All the steroids and HGH were already invented and used by top-athletes.

If you look at bodybuilders of 90s era like Paul Dillett, Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates, Flex Wheeler and many others, they were equally big/ripped as today's cause they used the same PEDs as today's top-bodybuilders.

Look at track and fields world records (men).

Of 43 events, 17 world records were set as long as early-mid 90s (and two were in the mid 80s).

World records in such popular events like 1000 m, 1500 m, mile, 3000 m, long jump, triple jump, high jump, javelin throw were set in 90s

Discus and hammer throw world records were set in 80s and no one can break them since.

All of these facts show us that PED/supplements/training methods were at the highest level in 90s in sports world.

Same with boxing.

Maybe boxing skills has evolved? Hell no! You can easily find not only 90s, but 80s, 70s era boxers who were equally or better skilled than today's fighters.

The only thing that today's HWs have over 90s HWs is average size. They are generally taller and thus heavier.

But you have to take into account that talent pool of HWs in USA in 80s-90s was great, and today it's very weak. There were more skilled HWs in 80s and 90s era than today, and it's quite obvious.

Look at guys like Breazeale, Molina, Martin and many others and you'll see how poorly skilled are today's HWs outside of top-5 (and some in top-5 too).

We have few good prospects today but we need to watch them against better opposition. Too early to tell.

90s had more talents, but today's HWs are taller/heavier.

 

1990-1999 greater than 2010-2018.

 

Possible, but they would certainly leave a trail of cancelled fights and NCs due to failed VADA tests (at least Tyson and Holy Roids).

 

The post Lewis era contenders and their 90's era counterparts are as follows.

Alexander Povetkin=Ray Mercer

Sam Peter =Samson Poʻuha

Tony Thompson =Danell Nicholson

Sultan Igbramov = Joe Hipp

Ruslan Chagev = Yuri Vaulin

Eddie Chambers = ??????

Ray Austin = Ken Lakusta

Mariuz Wach = David Jaco

Herbie Hide = David Haye

Lamon Brewster = David Tua

Chris Arroela = Frank Botha

James MaCline = Lionel Butler

Vitali Klitschko = Jorge Louis Gonzalez

Wladimir Klitschko = Jimmy Thunder / Tommy Morrison hybrid


Residuals from the 90's who couldn't cut it in their own era , later became champ past their prime during the 2003-2010 era =

Chris Byrd
Corrie Sanders
Shannon Briggs

 

It's commonplace in any era for that decade's array of heavyweights to be declared 'the weakest in history'. And the post-klitschko era is no different in attracting this label. It also happens to be true....

 

So 90s version of Frans Botha, Michael Moorer or Axel Schultz would beat Deontay Wilder, Alexander Povetkin or Anthony Joshua of today? You gotta be kidding me.

 

Great post.

Traditional PEDs probably peaked back then in terms of dosage and expertise in use. Back in the 60s and 70s they just pumped athletes full to the eyeballs and sent them to train with little fear of being detected, and even less knowledge in how best exploit the advantage (save East Germany). By the late 80s-90s the doping approach was more sophisticated (and probably became commonplace in boxing in that era) and the testing was still pretty basic. Nowadays, micro-dosing predominates because of stringent testing so i agree, the chemical advantage between the eras is negligible. Gene doping is the current undetectable vogue, but I doubt that's made it to boxing. Maybe Valuev? LOL

 

No, it's just wishful thinking and people are against the present because it makes them realize that they are getting old.

Wladimir was hated for decades, now I saw his former haters saying he would have beaten Mike Tyson and despite him losing against AJ and Fury, people still pick him to beat them in a rematch. Why? Because Wladimir makes them realize how fast time flies and they don't wanna support young, stronger fighters.

 

surely everyones getting older.

 

noone sane is saying that, nor did they change their minds.

he made them realise that by getting ktfo and beaten easily on points? wtf. not exactly a george foreman grilling.

 

Perhaps I’m just romanticising the 90’s, but I remember the talent pool just being a lot better. Fighters getting into the sport earlier and taking it serious.

Today, once you remove your elite guys, the levels just take a nosedive.

Anyhow, I still rate the elites of both eras, so in that regard it would depend on the night.

 

So, when you and a few others read my post, instead of seeing the word 'most' you took it to mean all.... well done

 

You didn't destroy anything. You brought up two 90's era fighters and acted like a douchebag.

 

Povetkin is as good as Mercer was in the 90s. He's nearly 40 and nobody has handed him his ass altho WK came close. I would take him to deal with the likes of Botha and Moorer even at 39. Sanders should really be listed as a 90s fighter but these so called 90s greats wouldn't fight him. They'd rather beat up the likes of Alex Stewart. Ask yourself why was that?

 

Chill douche chill.