Would Henry Maske beating Bob Foster be a shock?

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Maske defended his alphabet IBF title 10 times, only 2 of his challengers were ranked by the Ring Egerton Marcus no7 and Ernest Magdaleno no 10.Neither higher than seventh. That's two Ring ranked challengers out of ten / Mostly he faced a collection of journeymen such as John Scully and David Vedder who had a record of15-12-3.
    Foster defended his versions of the title 13 times his ranked challengers were.
    Kendall no 4
    Carroll no4
    Tessman no6
    Kelley no7
    Rondon no1
    Quarry no 5
    Fourie no2
    Fourie no 5
    That's eight Ring ranked challengers out of 13! Four of whom were in the top four.
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

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    I get it, Maske is your favorite, good for you. Debating is for politicians, I do not vote or have never been on the debating team. But you are entitled to believe the way you want to believe. But one last question, Did Maske retire as champion like Foster did? Or did he lose his title to someone?. I do not believe in resumes, Fighters fight what are put in front of them, calling out people is something from the WWE, not boxing. There was only one Muhammad Ali, not everyone can be like him, being an individual is really important. But in my opinion, I do not see Henry Maske beating Bob Foster, Bob was tall and rangy, and had that mean left hook and if you are believing in resumes, Henry's pales to Foster's.
     
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  5. Seamus

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    Maske was as tall and basically as long as Foster. But quicker, better balanced and a difficult southpaw.

    Foster retired as champ (after a draw) but came back a year later and the sport had past him by. Maske retired, came back and avenged his lone, and dubious, defeat.

    Maske was weltmeister. He possessed the carriage of a weltmeiter. Carriage is the most important factor when assessing a fighter. But it takes an expert to recognize it.
     
  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    Thanks for the info, never really paid attention to Maske.
     
  7. Tonto62

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    Half an inch shorter actually. Outside of Rhas it seems you are the only expert here then S.
     
  8. Kosst Amojan

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    This statistics are wrong, he is at least 1,90m, not 1,89. Forster is shorter, not 1,91m, read the thread more accurate, Roop-a-Doop pointed that Forster was 6 Feet and 2 inches!
     
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    Do you seriously pretend that Graziano Rocchigiani was not ranked, who was two times challenger of Maske? Maybe you should look in Super-Middleweight...Also Iran Barkley, who just had lost his title against Toney.
    Duran Williams was even number 1.
    Vedder was very difficult to fight, lost only by disqualification against Michalczewsky, when he made him a deep cut. That can be compared with Steve Robinson.

    He was not only linear champion, defeating the as best world champion in the weight class regarded Charles Williams, who was over 8 years undefeated, but also Olympic champion , amateur world champion and three times in row European champion. When did Forster accomplish such?
     
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    Maske would have been, if he didn't announce his retirement before the fight. Also would he won it again in the rematch vs. Hill, if he did any tune-up fights after one decade in retirement, as he dominated the current WBA Cruiserweight champion of the world.
    So he is arguable two division world champion.

    One question to you; did Forster won the Olympic gold medal as Maske did?
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

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    Maske won it, good for him. A Gold Medal is not a prerequisite to qualify as a World Light Heavyweight Champion. You like Maske fine, but everyone has their own opinions on their own favorites. You are a youngster, I have been watching pro boxing since 1965. What matters is Foster's title defenses against ranked challengers, even destroyed WBA Light Heavyweight Champion Vicente Rondon in two rounds, it does not matter what weight class Rondon was, the point being he won his belt by stopping Jimmy Dupree. Bob Foster knocked him out rather easily. Maske was tall, and? I do not put much stock in fantasy fights, they are never going to fight anyway. When the day comes that they do fight which is never, then I will watch it. You have your opinion, I have mine. No Debating, I am not running for office. Lol.
     
  12. Tonto62

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    Stats taken from Box Rec You have no idea how tall Maske is or how long his reach is and Ive asked 3 times to give us the info I posted the stats directly with copy and paste.
    You have no info and therefore no argument!
    Neither have you any rebuttal to Maske only defending against only two Ring ranked challengers neither of whom were ranked in the top 6! When Maske stepped up in class he was beaten and his single alphabet title taken from him.
    Foster beat 5 challengers ranked in the Ring top 5.Eight of his challengers were top ten Ring ranked including Rondon the other champion whom he beat the crap out of,and by taking his title unified the division .
     
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    Maske won the MIDDLEWEIGHT GOLD MEDAL and he had a walkover and a bye in that competition.
     
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    EM Forster? He wrote some good novels but didn't box . Bob Foster had a short amateur career and turned pro in 61. Rocchigiani was NOT Ring ranked, neither were Barkley or Duran,or Vedder look it up! Vedder had lost his previous 2 fights,prior to his fight with Maske Barkley had beaten 3 scrubs and lost by stoppage to the 2 class men out of the previous 5 fights he had.
     
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    Maske was never linear champion or undisputed champion and neither was Williams, both were only ever IBF Lhvy champions Rocchigiani lost to Eubanks at SUPER MIDDLE a year BEFORE he challenged Maske.
    Amateur achievements and fine but no indication as to what a fighter will achieve in the pro ranks .
    eg Audley Harrison.Tyson never made the Olympics,but he beat several of his compatriots that did!
    DuranWilliams. Going into the Maske fight he had 17 fights against scrubs16 wins and a draw.
    These are the records of those opponents when he fought them.
    9-9-1
    15-7-1 DRAW
    9-4-2
    10-9-1
    8-11-0
    6-6-2
    4-0-0
    10-34-4
    2-2-0
    8-7-1
    13-5-0
    6-2-0
    0-2-0
    4-0-0
    6-4-0
    2-5-0
    0-1-0
    After losing to Maske in a criminal mismatch for which the IBF should be thoroughly ashamed he had just one more fight,being stopped in 9 rds by James Toney.
    He was NEVER a RING ranked fighter.
    It's clear you never get tired of being humiliated and thrashed in debates here ,which is good, because I never get tired of doing it to you!
     
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