Would Henry Maske beating Bob Foster be a shock?

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  1. Kosst Amojan

    Kosst Amojan Active Member banned Full Member

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    You have never watched Maske, so you have no buisness here!
    Rocchgiani was one of his scalps, the two divison champion and had only one defeat when he got robbed vs Eubanks. Williams was number 1 in Light-Heavyweight and world champion for 5 years when Maske challenged him, that was his main scalp!
    Egerton Marcus is also a good one, in the Olympic final 1988. Iran Barkley got outclassed and stopped by him, one year aftet he lost his title on points against James Toney.
    So you absolutely know nothing about him, but I watched almost half of his title-defences (within one day).
     
  2. Kosst Amojan

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    This is beyond dumb!

    If someone gets stopped, then Föster, who only went forward and had no plan B. Maske could adjust very well, due to his long amateur career of twenty years and his intellect.
     
  3. Kosst Amojan

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    The first three were all in the top 10, by any boxing body (world wide).
    Barkley was one year before IBF champion in Super-Middleweight.
    Rocky got jobbed in the previous year vs. Eubanks, so he was probably there ranked as I pointed, but you tried to trick us again (without success).
    He was already in 1991 European champion in Light-Heavyweight.
     
  4. Tonto62

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    Williams was never more than an IBF alphabet champ. Rocchigiani was NEVER ranked at LHVY.
    Marcus was ranked no7 in1993 and no 7 in1997,unranked apart from that.
    Williams was ranked
    1990 no1
    1991 no2
    1993 no4
    1994 no5

    Eubanks fought Rocchigiani in Germany .Here are the scorecards
    referee: [url]Genaro Rodriguez[/url] | [url]Mike Glienna[/url] 114-113 | [url]Cesar Ramos[/url] 115-113 | [url]Frank Skilbred[/url] 118-109.
    You should have a flush handle fitted to your empty head.
    You are full of it! lol
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

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    So are you a psychologist in evaluating Mask's IQ? Who in God's name is Robert Forster? If you are referring to Foster, it is Bob Foster. Did they teach spelling at the school that you attended?. Maske appears to have fought ancient relics like a very old Vigil Hill and Iran Barkley. I think that Foster fought more ranked challengers than your hero Maske, it is easy to pad your record fighting escapees from a rest home and unheard of Tomato Cans. I love it, you are really convinced that you are an expert. Fantasy fights are just that, fantasies in someone's imagination, determined by bias and opinions. Foster is never going to fight Maske, he has already passed away. Olympic medals are nice but not necessary to win a belt. Just curious, are you a troll? Or someone who used to be here? You sound vaguely familiar. I think that you like the attention you are getting, not sold on Maske, Robert Forester, Lol.
     
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  6. Kosst Amojan

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    You just make a fool of yourself when you pretend that Rocchigiani was never ranked in Light-Heavyweight, it is just a obvious lie: He was 1998 WBC world champion in Light-Heavyweight with a win over Michael Nunn. Everybody here knows, that Rocky was at place 5 - 6 when he fought Maske. So you won't make a fool of us here, but only of yourself:

    [url]https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1996[/url]



    Light Heavyweights

    Title Vacant
    1. [url]Roy Jones Jr.[/url]
    2. [url]Dariusz Michalczewski[/url]
    3. [url]Reggie Johnson[/url]
    4. [url]Graciano Rocchigiani[/url]
    5. [url]Lou Del Valle[/url]
    6. [url]Eric Harding[/url]
    7. [url]Montell Griffin[/url]
    8. [url]Michael Nunn[/url]
    9. [url]Antonio Tarver[/url]
    10. [url]David Telesco[/url]

    [url]https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1994[/url]

    I never claimed it didn't take place in Germany, I didn't even mention where it was (so I don't know why you do it now) nor did I deny this.
    Neverless I scored it 117 - 114 for Rocchigiani and even the British commentator had a draw (so Rocky objective won the last two rounds, he earned the decision, if it was even after round 10), what proves it is a controversial decision. The scores by two of the judges showed it was close, the other was way off.
     
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  7. Kosst Amojan

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    I think his first name was Robert; didn't they reach you in school, that Bob is a shortform of Robert (or shall he be named Bobert)? I think your mother language is English, so you should know this even the more than me...

    Maske wouldn't be that successful if his ring IQ would be one of the higher, along with Jack Johnson, Willie Pep and maybe Gene Tunney.
    Olympic medals, especially gold are quite more diffcult than to win a world title (as it is ony possible every 4 years), particular when several per weight-class exist (like now 36 at least).
    There you can't choose your opponent nor the date, but you have to fight how it is ordered against anyone everywhere.
    So the merits in Olympic boxing are harder to accomplish and professional boxing was for Maske just supposed to cash out (he is arguable one of the 10 greatest amateurs ever). So overall he has more achieved than Förster. Can you agree with that?

    Foster wouldn't surpass his forhand, as I pointed boxing had far developed in the 15 years between them and Maske was a master in using the range and counterboxing. He has a superior timing here and more accuracy (possible speed too), also the better footwork.
    I have probably more fights watched of him than you did. Henry Maske was the same age as Virgil Hill, but who was more active (had before the rematch won the WBA title in Cruiserweight against 30-0-0 Brudov with 118 - 110, had the year before the rematch with Mormeck where he deserved a draw, stopped Tiozzo in 2001 in the first round via three knockdowns). I guess Barkley was also not much older than him.
    Williams was regarded as the king of Light-Heavyweight when he fought him and dominated, as Hill had lost to Hearns and Harding to Andries recently beforhands (The Prince was since 1987 world champion at least) so this is kind of lineage in my view.
    Also was his fight against Toney, where Williams was weight-drained as it was his debut in Super-Middleweight, much closer on the scorecards than against Maske it was (they were here 77 - 75 at the time of the stoppage).

    So (Prince) Charles Williams, two-time Hearns conqueror Iran Barkley, undefeated Olympic silver-medalist Egerto Marcus (as revanche of the final), Ernesto Magdaleno, two times vs. former IBF champion and future WBC champion Graziano Rocchigiani, undefeated Duran Williams, two time WBA champion Virgil Hill.. well that are really tomato-cans....:BangHead:
    The 10 - 15 guys of Calzaghes title-defences are far more embarrassing. And Hopkins fought like feeled 12 times Robert Allen and 8 times Antwun Echols.

    I think your opinion is pretty biased western, but not balanced.. Most people of the former GDR would favour Maske here and he is the modern boxer (here are many Brits which favour Lewis against Ali).
     
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  8. Tonto62

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    Listen and learn stupid! Maske fought Rocchigiani on the 27th of May1995.Rocchigiani did not get Ring ranking until the end of 1996!
    1995
    Title Vacant
    1. [url]Virgil Hill[/url]
    2. [url]Henry Maske[/url]
    3. [url]Jeff Harding[/url]
    4. [url]Charles Williams[/url]
    5. [url]Leeonzer Barber[/url]
    6. [url]Mike McCallum[/url]
    7. [url]Egerton Marcus[/url]
    8. [url]Frank Tate[/url]
    9. [url]Ernesto Magdaleno[/url]
    10. [url]Fabrice Tiozzo[/url] How dumb are you!
     
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  9. Bulldog24

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    Eubank Sr was very dominant v Rocky in one of the best performances of the 90s.

    Rocky beat Maske clearly, arguably the second time too. (Rocch was also robbed v Michalczewski.)
     
  10. Mod-Mania

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    Yes a massive one but highly unlikeley to happen.
     
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    Mentioning Eubank, you do surprise me.
     
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    Lol, since German stuff and old Nazi stuff seems to have a revival for some posters nowadays.
    In order to mark the occasion: Eine Attacke!

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  15. Richard M Murrieta

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    Yes I am Western and darn proud of it. I served my country for 6 honorable years. Your opinion is biased wherever you are from. Robert is the real name for Bob, I get it. But why the formalities, we here in Western country, the great United States, call him Bob, so do other nations. The Forester last name, where in God's name did you get that from? Bob's last name is Foster, F-O-S-T-E-R, not your incorrect spelling F-O-R-E-S-T-E_R. So Maske won a gold medal, whoop tee do, Am I supposed to faint with being impressed. There was another Gold Medallist in 1972, a guy named Sugar Ray Seales, he never amounted to a hill of beans, so did another 1972 Gold Medalist at heavyweight, Duane Bobick, Ken Norton feasted on him pretty quick. You go ahead and dream of this Maske guy, but you better wake up and apologize, if you think that Maske or whatever his name is could beat an all time great that retired as champion like Bob Foster, 1968-1974. Try to understand, Foster and this Henry Maske will never fight, Foster passed away Nov 21 2015, I know Maske fights Tomato Cans, he would have lost to Foster's challengers but really, fighting the deceased that are resting in peace, that is a stretch. Who is Maske going to fight next? Archie Moore? Moore passed away on Dec 9 1998, I met him in person. If you do not like what I post, go ahead and report me too. I have a life outside this site. Remember this, this Western Nation helped your fellowmen beat Hitler in World War II, otherwise you might be speaking Maske's language. Believe what you like, but you cannot brain wash me into your thinking, Have A Good Day Sir.
     
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