Would Ingo have been the hardest puncher Liston fought?

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    That’s been explained too. Now tell me this. If Johansson hit as hard or harder than Liston as Floyd claims, why then did he have to floor Patterson SEVEN times over three rounds to finish him ? Why couldn’t he repeat that performance in the rematches ? Why couldn’t Floyd last as long in TWO nights with Liston as he did with Johansson in one ?
     
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  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    The Bayonne Bomber.

    A bleeding, powerful hitter.

    He dropped Ali no less.

    Not sure why you’re so bemused Swag. :lol:
     
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  3. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why then Ingo beats healthy Machen in 1st round by KO while Liston fought injured Machen, used something on his gloves, went the distance and didn't want to rematch Machen ?
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Was there a rematch talked about ? And the answer is that Machen fought Liston like he was actually fighting a big puncher and didn’t trade with him
     
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  5. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Also The Thinking Woman's GOAT.

    Unfortunately, thinking has not always been my strong suit. I am the muscle in the family; My husband is the thinker.
     
  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Okay, so Machen’s right hand was injured and, sans any tell tale eye discomfort, he was also blinded by a solution on Liston’s glove….

    ……an allegation he inexplicably chose not to reveal until 4 years after the “fact”….

    …..the timing of the belated BIG reveal happening to coincide with Ali’s accidental blinding in Miami in 64’. Sounds solid. Got it.

    Against Liston, I bet they also gave Machen the corner with the sun shining directly into it to further disadvantage “Fast” Eddie…probably was given some funny tasting water by a mole in his camp too.

    Talk about being royally screwed. :facepalm:
     
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  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Based on a certain claim made by one of Liston’s biographers, if Liston had shown his “Toonder” to Ingo, the poor Swede might’ve suffered an instant and debilitating inferiority complex. :coleman:
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I don't think Machen gave Liston the chance to hit him with his best shot. He was on the move. Ingo suprised him. Eddie really didn't want to find out about Sonny's power.
     
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