Would it be good for boxing to remove cw division?

Keep it, like others have said, 175 to heavyweight is way too big of a jump. You can’t just discount high level fighters like Gassiev or Briedis who were the perfect size for cruiser. The division itself is an amazing one because a lot of those guys hit like heavies but still carry the speed and athleticism of LHWs. The fact that they still have to make weight also adds in the factor that they will most likely be in great shape as well. Heavyweight tends to attract a ton of laziness, slow paced matches, and beer bellied fighters because cutting is irrelevant.

 

I was in the Navy, and have deployed on a lot of different vessels. They're not that big and are dwarfed by aircraft carriers. They were designed to be big enough to pack a punch but quick enough to provide protection for carriers. It just doesn't make sense to me name the second biggest division after a relatively small ship type.
That's why I say switch the names for Cruiser and Light Heavy. Our current LHW division seems to fit this type more thematically and changing the cruiserweight name to light heavyweight under heavyweight is way more clear.

 

Two former CW fighters who where Undisputed before moving up to Heavyweight and going Undisputed there does not warrant the removal of a full division for plenty of reasons,removing a complete division based on two fighters accomplishments achieves nothing. For a start it is a huge jump from LH to HW (ok other fighters have done it but they were also exceptional fighters). Divisions are there to try and keep things fair as well as the fact young fighters often gain weight as they age and mature and have to move up through the divisions. As mentioned and proven over the years some fighters are built ideal for the CW division but too small for the HW division.

 

Cruiserweight is really Heavyweight and current Heavyweight is Super Heavyweight. .

I say keep it.

It makes more sense to me than the proliferation of lighter weights classes.

 

**** man i'm no expert at all.

Even if Cruisers were massive, it's not intuitive. Light-Heavy is. You shouldn't have to teach people the meaning of a weight division. It should be in the name. Unfortunately our names are stupid so fans teach fans what they mean. That's my bad for assuming you didn't know about the boats.


I am honestly surprised to read cruisers are not actually large ships but it's not even needed for your point to stand. We don't call any class the dingy class, ain't no other weight class but Bridger named after a person, and even in the naming convention that makes sense, light, middle, heavy, etc we've added so many divisions, most of which have stupid names, Middle weight is not even the middle weight division of the sport. Not in actual weight or number of divisions.

 

Merge LHW with CW. Done.

 

Aircraft-Carrierwieght doesnt have the same ring to it all honest.

 

sometimes i forget about the naming system and forget to laugh.

bantam a bird is beneath a feather in wieght...MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.


i wish we used some language like latin for the names to cover it up and then make it easier on the eye.

200+ Gravis
175+ Mihi
160+ Medius
147+ Tumultus
135+ Lux
126+ Pluma
118+ Volare
106+ Paleas

then you can add suffix 'perbus' to make it bigger. "Salve, i am the Lux-perbus champion of the world Teofimo Lopez"

 

You're spot on, bro.

 

to the topic at hand.

they should have been stronger back in the days and kept cruiser at 190 or 185...or 188.

there is no question that light heavy's can compete at heavy...but the global increase of size to the modern day has made jack root vs marvin hart a joke. Primo was an anomaly at the huge vast size of 6'5 and 255lbs...that is barely above average now. even parker and kabyat are comparable and far better athletes.

so no. cruiser is a welcome addition.

the truth is cruiser should have started earlier. 'bridger' (spits on the floor) should have been the addition at 180. then we move cruisers parameters up.



ALSOOO

there is a little bit of a myth of cruisers are too small. byrd got himself in his mid 30's down to 175lbs (not successfuly aight i get it).
and Okolie came in at 260....looking like a parade float.
when you drain and starve yourself in a division you can get usyk, evander, toney etc. who are naturally bigger but are squeezing themselves to make weight and will pop into a perfectly effective heavy. but we dont have that mentality to heavyweights of old.

lets spin it round. floyd patterson even said he put on wieght because he wanted to be heavyweight champion. jimmy ellis is a career middlewieght that just fits his diet, which then makes you feel that frazier and Ali might have actually (with modern techniques and nutrition) just shrunk into 175.

the divisions are there to make fights competative. if you are in your prime and don't have any outside pressure you can overcome weight like manny did for years.

 

To put it simple: with the apparent lack of talent- or simply fights not happening (call it whatever you want)- im all for making it one division. Cruiserweights can seriously negociate their supposed disadvantages. Make the best fight the best in one division. On paper it offers more good and interesting fights.

 

Exactly, you get it. Briedis could've been top 5, we know for a fact that a chubby slower Michael Hunter could beat Bakole and force Povetkin to a draw, Holyfield was an atg. Gassiev failed but he wasn't even bullied by Otto Wallin, Wallin boxed him to stay away from the power of the smaller man

They should just jumble the divisions together and raise the LHW limit to 185 or 190. Some won't agree but i genuinely believe Opetaia would demolish half the top 10 heavyweights right now. He is a regular sparring partner of Teremoana Jr who is larger and more powerful than 80% of these super heavyweights lol

 

They should remove super middleweight too or raise the limit

They are just light heavyweights draining down. Janibek has a bigger frame than Bivol and he's at 160 I've seen them side by side Janibek is huge

 

If I were in charge, I'd remove about 5 weight classes and expand the remaining divisions each by 3 to 5 lbs or so to cover the difference, with more weight added to the heavier classes so that cruiserweight ends up being about 185-210. No bridgerweight division.

The UFC has its problems, but its weight class divisions are much better than boxing.