Would jack johnson style work today

The question of the thread is, would Jack Johnson style work today?

Can you show us a fighter top level fighter today who has a low guard, hits and holds, doesn't throw a lot of punches in most rounds, and for his weight class is not viewed as a knock out puncher?


If the answer is no, or at best a mixed reply, then perhaps the answer to the question of the thread is also no.

 

Yes, his style would work.
Not at heavyweight.
He'd fight at cruiser or light-heavyweight. He'd probably fight some blown-up middleweights and super-middles. He could cherry pick - everyone else does.

He'd have to adapt a bit to the big cumbersome gloves, but he'd still have success with smothering and upper-cutting - his bread and butter.
And he had the talent to score with effective flurries when he had his man hurt.

 

The question of the thread is style, not great ability. I would disagree with you on hitting power as Johnson would not be called a good puncher at heavyweight in modern times.


Getting back to style, a low guard and not throwing a lot of punches makes it very hard to win on points. Countering with uppercuts when holding would not work today. Like you said it gets a warning, and then points can be taken away so that out of the equation, even though Johnson himself used that tactic as perhaps his greatest offensive strength in the ring.

 

If you can't offer a direct reply to my question who today with a low guard who does not throw a lot of punches, yet is highly ranked I think We know the answer to the question


No, the style would not work.

 

Have you guys noticed, has any other fighter in East Side postings besides perhaps Marciano had so diverse views on? Almost everyone agrees he had superior skills and boxing intellegence, the dif being the veiws on how he did overall and whether his style would work in an entirely different skill set of boxing today.

 

Excellent posting!

 

Vladimir Klitscho has a low guard and does not thow very often, or more than one or two at a time. He tends only to really open up when he senses he has you hurt. But until then, he is cautious and methodical. He also doesn't mind clinching for breaks or when his foe gets close. People are doing today the same things Johnson did back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOjrfL3Hu_8

 

This.

 

There have always been hit and clinchers, the game at the time of Johnson's prime was often the way the Jeffries-Sharkey film shows it, move abit, throw one punch, clinch. The Fitzimmon's-Corbett bout examplifies the one punch and clinch common to the times. None of that subtracts from Johnson's greatness but it puts why his style worked so well then and may not of later on.

 

This is false. Wlad does not have a low guard. His right is high and he moves well. Seldom does he get tagged but Johnson did vs lesser opposition.


Wlad changed his style to be more economical. It works for him because he's huge, accurate and strong.


But if we did a punch count Wlad would easily pass Johnson. The only thing Johnson would hold an edge is clinch time. Could you imaging Wlad having to hold super middles?

 

Wlad was kod TWICE IN HIS PRIME and by journeymen.

Johnson was never stopped in his prime.
After being stopped by Choynski ,Johnson went 15 years before it happened again.

 

That's a compliment.