Would James Toney or Valuev win a round vs Vitlai?

How did I name call?, I just told you that when you openly and in the face say "Vitali avoided Rahman" even though you KNOW that injuries is what forced him you're making yourself look like a joke. Is than an insult?, I don't think so, it's the truth and if I said something similar you might respond even worse. It's like you can see that your table is blue in color yet claim it's red on purpose to make a point, sorry but only children act that way.

This is just a discussion in the end, I really don't care if you think my colors shined or not, either respond to what I said or let's move on. Yeah, I'm an ******* you're a God we are all beasts and public heroes, behind the PC. I'm here to discuss boxing not show off my keyboard "muscles".

 

OK. :good

 

Good point.

 

Got to agree with you again.

 

Calling someone a laughing stock is an insult...if I considered the source, it might not be...no need to "Suge(ar) Coat" it.

ViTKLiT's cancelling Four fights with Rahman, is something that is always going to follow him.

Even WBC President Jose Sualiman commented on ViTKLiT's record.

The best thing for ViTKLiT would be for Rahman to get a couple of wins, so that he would be justified in KOing him once and for all.

What he did in his cancellations is right there in the history books, along with him and his brother sharing the title.

 

No. Toney would be able to move away from some of Vitali's shots, but Vitali would land enough to win rounds.

Valuev, despite being a BIG man, doesn't take advantage of that and is more of a boxer-type. Because of this he'd win some rounds, but Vitali would win more than he.

 

IMO Vitali would kill Valuev and I don't want to see that. Valuev looks like a bear, but he won't stand 12 rounds against Vitali. I don't think Vitali needs the height advantage against a fighter like Valuev who is definitely not in his league (skillwise) and much too slow to avoid a serious beating.

 

Vitali would infict career ending injuries, and would really try to hurt Toney because the fat midget, is such an ******* and has talked so much **** (he can't back up)against the Klitchkos in the past, Vitaly would put a BAD beating on the Roid Junkie and stop him in under 6 rounds, most likely by mercy stoppage by the corner or the ref..
Valuev would present problems on size alone Vitaly to my knowledge has never fought anyone bigger than him, and at 7-1 330 lbs Vitali would be half a foot shorter and 70lbs lighter, Vitaly would have to settle for a decision in this one..

 

Valuev would win rounds based on his jab, reach, and workrate.

Only rounds which Vitali would take off.

 

A better question would be would James Toney pass the post fight steroid test?

 

Valuev? No . . . Toney I could see having some close rounds if Vitali stepped off the gas to get his wind

 

never once in all the time have i ever said that james toney is no good.

it is obvious the man has talent , and i never judge fighters on what passport they have.

i judge them with what i see with my own eyes.

my debate was pointing out that toney was reluctent to travel to get title oppurtunities over a long period of time and i never once mentioned in any post that toney lacked talent and was not any good.

i would never call a fighter like toney or vitali a stumblebum second rater piece of garbage uncordinated BUM

because i have watched enough fights of both of them to know different and judge both there talents.

 

The stumblebum thread was an ESB classic...all in good fun.

 

the reason I don't see valuev getting rounds is because he is one dimensional and from round one it would be the same microcosm of valuev's lack of talent vs Vitali's relative abundance, whereas Toney could possibly adapt a bit show a few glimpses of his former glory . . .

 

It will also be in the history books that he was injured seriously and couldn't make it, nothing wrong with that and definitely not the first time it happens. Injuries are a part of the sport.

As far as sugar coating the "laughing stock" comment directed to you, I wasn't sugar coating it, just explaining it as you thought I directly called you a "laughing stock" when in reality I just said that some of your comments slowly make you one.