Would Jimmy Young have any sort of a chance against a peak Tyson?

Finally , sum1 w/ sum ****in sense ,

Young would n0t stand a singlE chance against , an offensive MASTER like Iron Mike . Young got outboxed by the likes of ,
Neumann , OCASIO , AND EVEN GLASS-CHINNED KEN ,
NORTON.

Any1 tht , srsly thinks Young stands ,
any kind of chance is living ,
in a fantascy world . Smart-en,
UP.

 

Yea, whats up with that Neauman loss? Anybody ever see any of Randy's fights?

 

you're saying jimmy was controlled by the mafia?

 

tommygun...remember, don't feed the trolls...they're too stupid to understand and they just multiply.

 

It seems like alot of the time Young was simply fighting for the paycheck

 

As Young himself said in an interview..an article from Sports Illustrated way back...."I don't fight to win...I fight to survive"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1092965/index.htm

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Talk is talk. We all watched the "fight".

Spinks performed as well as he possibly could: he covered up, moved to the side, clinched, threw the Jinx, jerked around, but Tyson--like a crazed shark smelling blood--just kept coming.

It is completely false to suggest Spinks stood his ground in ring center. He was getting bombarded and was felled while seeking refuge along the ropes.

 

Mike Tyson is two cuts above.

Ali and Norton never possessed anything like Tyson's terrible offense. Young could operate against them.

When Foreman hit Young in Round 7, Young himself confesses he was "asking God to help my soul". A peak Mike Tyson would never let Young off the hook like the clumsy Foreman. Tyson would devour a hurt 200-pounder like Young.

What exactly, pray, is Young going to do to hold off Tyson?

a) He doesn't have a punch to keep Tyson honest.

b) He isn't particularly tall to keep his arms out and head away.

c) He isn't heavy enough to absorb punishment and clinch to the final bell.

 

WORD
:hat

 

I agree, but there are plenty of instances where Young could avoid combinations as well as single punches. See the Cooney fight, he was actually blocking and dodging alot of Cooney's shots which are comparable to Tyson's.

Young has still operated well when he was hurt. Tyson couldn't put away alot of people who simply clinched and tied him up. Young was a master of tieing people up, he easily tied up Ron Lyle, Foreman, and Shavers who are all just as strong as Tyson if not stronger.

Yet he still kept Lyle and Foreman honest with his shots. He had more power than what people gave him credit for. Tyson often was lazy on the inside so Young would have no problem tying him up.

Young's defense would negate alot of Tyson's punches.

I don't know, in and out of his prime durability/toughness was always a strong point. I think he could probably last till the final bell as long as he was in shape and motivated. Mike never faced a defensive fighter like Young, with all of Young's abilities and chin. Spinks would be the closest, but like I said Spinks wasn't as tough as Young.

 

Young excelled at frustrating the big bruisers. But Tyson was much more than that. We cannot place him with Lyle or Shavers or Foreman.

In this matchup, Young would be facing a terrifying mirror-image of himself in one respect: besides his tremendous speed and power, Tyson, at his best, was also an excellent counterpuncher.

I see Tyson getting in Young's face and opening him up with a perfectly-timed counter left hook upstairs as well as his famous jolting right to body and head.

Once Tyson begins landing, all Young can do to survive is tie his man up. This will buy him time, but not much, because Tyson--undeterred--will keep coming and banging him up.

I think the ref stops it, after a brave Young has tasted the canvas once or twice.

P.S. I would like to address your other points later. :good

 

I agree. I was just saying Tyson was simply comparable to Lyle, Shavers, and Foreman in strength and power. For this reason Young would probably be able to tie Tyson up.

Of course, I think Tyson is an overall better fighter than Young.

As I said this wouldn't really be easy to land against Young who had GREAT defense. Even when Young was past his prime he was able to avoid alot of blistering combinations from Cooney. So you can assume he would be able to do the same against Tyson, especially if he was in his prime.

I just think you're selling Young's power a bit short. Young stunned plenty of durable heavyweights and has better power than what his KO ratio would suggest. Iron Mike would become frustrated IMO like he became against Tillis. The difference being, Tillis didn't have Young's brilliant defense. Remember, I still think Tyson would win a clear decision, with Young stealing a few rounds.

The worst style match up for Young would be a pressure fighter or inside fighter, Mike wasn't really that great in the inside. He was often lazy and initiated the clinching on his own.

If what Ecto said was true about Young sparring Tyson, then you can figure Young would at least be competitive with Mike:

This was back when Tyson was still developing and was still a young kid, it speaks volumes about how an actual fight between them would go.

 

I agree. Young would easily tie Tyson up, as many Tyson victims did.

Again, I believe Tyson succeeds where other Young opponents failed: his short, sharp punches open Young up where other lumbering name fighters (Ali included) threw fruitlessly from the outside.

I think it's clearly established that Young did not possess a heavyweight punch; he wore the brutes down for his knockdowns.

Young has one chance, in my view, to last the distance, not to win: should he survive past Round 6, he may be able to spoil to the final bell, as Tyson becomes complacent and/or frustrated, but Mike still takes it on the cards.

True, Mike was not primarily an inside fighter, but he could deliver lethal punishment inside, as against Tubbs, and this is what I see him doing with Young.

I have for years been aware that Young sparred with Tyson, with no knowledge of details. Here's thanking Ecto and calling on him to make his info available at his earliest convenience.

Bottom line, though: Mike was not a brute; he was a polished knockout artist who would revel in the opportunity to compete with and prove himself against a great technician such as Young. And I think he succeeds in convincing fashion.

 

The thread title is wrong. The question is: does Mike Tyson stand a chance with prime Jimmy Young?