Would Joe Calzaghe Go Through Nigel Benn And Chris Eubank's Resumes Undefeated

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dan Schommer and Steve Collins (II fight) were more dominant against Eubank than Calzaghe was, both beating Chris by 6-7 rounds clearly. Southpaw Schommer countering him bits, and Collins wildly outworking him; Eubank was always going to struggle against a cross between Schommer and Collins (= Calzaghe!)!
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think you have a dislike for Calzaghe and the haters are very insecure when he is mentioned because 46-0 doesnt lie and all roads lead to Calzaghe. Just look at the names - Eubank, Jones, Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, Mitchell, Woodhall, Reid, Brewer, Veit, (now Bika) all held world titles in weights Calzaghe competed in and won world titles in
     
  3. Mind Reader

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    He is just bitter about the domination of Eubank, from a young, raw Calzaghe that was in his first big fight, and didn't refuel or rehydrate like normal because he was so nervous.:yep
     
  4. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Disagree, I had Eubank v Collins II 9-3 to Collins, Eubank v Schommer 7-3-2 to Schommer, and Eubank v Calzaghe 11-1 to Calzaghe with two 10-8 rds.
     
  5. Bulldog24

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    If it wasn't for Chris Eubank, Joe Calzaghe wouldn't even exist.
     
  6. Mind Reader

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    :huh
     
  7. bailey

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    Meaning? do you say that because Calzaghe is the only one to clearly beat Eubank from start to finish?
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    What rounds did you give Collins, out of interest?

    The difference is, every round of Eubank-Calzaghe was close and competitive, with Calzaghe hurt in every half-minute. But 11 rounds to one is :lol:able. Eubank edged the 2nd and 3rd, with the 5th, 7th and 8th being scrappy and Calzaghe boxing too poorly to be given them.
     
  9. Bulldog24

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    He set the path for Calzaghe to follow - making the WBO title, making the super-middleweight division and bringing SKY-TV to the forefront of boxing for Calzaghe to make far more money than he deserved, and also bringing Showtime to the UK who later screened Calzaghe, too.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I see what you are trying to say now.
    I think Calzaghe would have made roads regardless as he was a talented fighter, but Eubank did help establish the title and was a big name fighter.
    Below is an old post I did, which is a bit similar

     
  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    'For the first two thirds of that match, Eubanks blocked almost everything Joe Calzaghe threw and you can't even count how many right hands and uppercuts Eubanks keeps getting in on him, and there's at least two or three other kids he lost to, too.' - Bernard Hopkins, before Calzaghe-Hopkins
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    'I say try watching his (Calzaghe's) fights with no sound and no Welsh or Europe commentators.' - B-Hop
     
  13. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have watched Calzaghe's fights with no commentary actually, but it didn't change a thing I still had 11-1 with two 10-8 rds to Calzaghe, he was just too active for Eubank just like he would have been for any version of Eubank.
     
  14. Bulldog24

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    We tend to forget that it was Eubank who showed professional boxers how to become the proper 'pain in the arse' they now are to the men that run the modern sport of boxing. If you like, he gave them a voice and taught them that they were not slaves to TV companies, managers or promoters. It was Eubank's speeches at all the PBA awards in London that gave Calzaghe the confidence to break away from Mickey Duff. Had it not been for Eubank, trust me, Calzaghe would've stayed with Duff and his career would've fizzled out with wars against Henry Wharton and Dean Francis taking too much out of him before facing a Frankie Liles in a non-TV world title (likely unsuccessful) challenge. His fragile character would've caused him to quit boxing.
     
  15. Bulldog24

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    Sorry, I meant what rounds did you give EUBANK?