Would Joe Frazier be a light heavyweight slayer?

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  1. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    Frazier could still beat most Heavyweights today you’d have to favour him over Wilder who can’t fight on the back foot, Joyce, Dubois, Parker, Whyte - Frazier beats them all

    Fury would be the big favourite given his size, AJ I see as a 50/50 and Usyk would have been one hell of a fight he doesn’t like shots to the body and that was Smokin Joe’s speciality

    So all Light Heavyweights would be eaten alive
     
  2. janitor

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    There is no such thing as impossible, but broadly speaking yes.

    There is probably more chance of one of them beating Foreman.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    No LHW could step up and beat Joe Frazier.

    He would knockout 100% of LHW champs.

    Where I was wrong he would score decision wins and be furious.
     
  4. AntonioMartin1

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    I think Michael Spinks had a chance. He was heavyweight champion too and he was a mover with good power.
     
  5. PRW94

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    I liked Spinks as a fighter but he ain’t beating prime Frazier without a tire iron if not a .45 automatic.
     
  6. ikrasevic

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    Even though Frazier was a small HW he wouldn't be able to make weight for LHW.
    Let's say that for the "ideal Frazier" I take the one from FOTC; that's still 30 pounds above LHW.
    So I can't compare it to: Bob Foster, Archie Moore, Beterbiev, Anthony Yarde, Michael Moorer, Michael Spinks... or anyone else who has made it to 175 pounds. It's not fair :)
     
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  7. davidjay

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    Frazier would have beaten all but a dozen or so heavyweights. There's not a light-heavy who would have lived with him.
     
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  8. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    You are right, Frazier was a bit like Mike Tyson anyways and had those bombs.
     
  9. BCS8

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    Actually you may have a point there.
     
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  10. Quick Cash

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    Too much is made out of his amateur stint at heavyweight in general. It's a piece of trivia people like to latch on to, but not one that I think holds up under scrutiny. He isn't unusually large for a modern light heavyweight, and is dwarfed by Smith Jr., Yarde, and Zurdo. He is still making weight at forty. Even in the era, that should count for something.
     
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  11. AngryBirds

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    Nope. There is no chance a LHW moving up will survive against him. Once he corners them just by walking right through whatever they throw at him, what will they do? They’re not strong enough to hurt him, push him back or outmuscle him. Frazier wins easily.

    This is like a blown up wolf vs a tiger. Sure the wolf has a pretty strong bite of its own and the weight gain helps some, but in the end the much stronger and larger tiger will simply walk the wolf down no matter what it does, then 1HKO it with a single paw swipe.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I actually think Archie Moore would do better than Foster by alot, not saying he wins however.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    [QUOTE="janitor, post: 22730783, member:

    There is probably more chance of one of them beating Foreman.[/QUOTE]
    I actually agree with this because of styles. Take Ezzard Charles for instance. He would have a better chance of outboxing Prime Foreman than Prime Frazier. Foremans style leaves him more open to being counter punched. But Frazier would be continually crowding and throwing rapid left hooks.
     
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  14. he grant

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    I see no light heavy having a shot and very very very few men 200 or under , ever ...
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Oh come on....you must give 190 pound Holyfield a good shot