Would Kessler be a top 3 P4P if he had a good promoter and didnt fight Calzaghe?

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  1. Hiro

    Hiro Active Member Full Member

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    If Kessler did like most fighters with 2 belts, refuse to fight outside and the best in there prime, then Kessler wouldnt have lost to Calzaghe 1 of the best p4p at that moment.

    At this time before Calzaghe, Kessler where looking very good.

    Instead of fighting Calzaghe and ruin his career, he could take a couple of belts in MW and LHW.. And that would NOT be a problem. So Kessler could easy become a world champion in 3 divisions.

    But instead he took the trip to Calzaghes homeland and took his first loss.

    Then he has promoter problems for a couple of years. And bam he takes on another top 5 p4p in Ward. Okay he didnt know this. But IMO Kessler took all the wrong desissions.

    If Kessler had a good trainer and promoter, Kessler could be top 3 p4p today.

    Kessler could beat Pacal, Froch, Abraham, Taylor, perhaps even Bute in 98, and all the nonames with belts in MW, SMW, LHW like Stiegliz today.
     
  2. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, could easily have happened.
     
  3. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Not today (Floyd Pac and JMM are much better) but at some point in his career maybe.
     
  4. pourya

    pourya Active Member Full Member

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    lol
    noooooooooooooooo
     
  5. tofu2009

    tofu2009 Active Member Full Member

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    I wonder how big Kess would be if he was British/American.
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take away calzaghe and he still go whipped by ward, where he lost a very close fight to joe.

    We could do ifs all day. Take away calzaghe take away ward and you get sven ottke. Kessler would have made top three if he had beat calzaghe. But he still would have lost to ward. As much as it pains European fans, truth is ward is simply a much better fighter then kessler even moreso then joe.
     
  7. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    in all fairness he is half-english, his mums from Sailsbury
     
  8. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The point is that if Kessler had done like Ward... and refused to travel outside his own country then either the fight would never have happened or it would have ended differently. Remember that Kessler has never lost at home, just like Froch.

    So fighters who never leave home obviosuly have a much better chance of never losing.

    When Kessler-Calzaghe happened many if not most reporters saw Kessler as the best of the two, and since Kessler had just beaten the no. 3 in the division Mundine abroad, he did not have the criticism that Calzaghe had. So if he had never travelled (like a Ward etc.) then he would most likely be undefeated still.
     
  9. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Isn't it his dad who is English? I think he's grown up with his mother and his English isn't particularly good (for a Danish person). If he had grown up with a native speaker, it stands to reason he would be fluid in the lingo. Anyway, Kessler could have made it into the top 5 p4p at several junctures in his career, but has just fallen short. Ha he beaten Calzaghe he would have belonged there, imo, and if he had won the super 6 he definitely would be up there as well. If he had had better luck with injuries I could still have seen it happen, but he isn't active enough anymore and will most likely never get there.
     
  10. chriswrench

    chriswrench Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler was not the same fighter as when he fought calzaghe. Older and on the back of a lay off. I take it you think that ward would have beaten calzaghe? Remember that calzaghe had also began to decline slightly at that point.
     
  11. Nipple

    Nipple I hate my username banned

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    Ward better than Joe?

    Joe had the style to give Ward fits.
     
  12. Tenorio

    Tenorio Bona fide Flomo Full Member

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  13. tobias

    tobias Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Top 3 P4P is hard to reach. Somewhere in top 10 yes.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No I don't think his competition would have been up to it, his best wins were past prime Beyer and Mundine, both been beat before