would kessler beat pavlik convincingly?

Where do I say that ?

He's quite likeable, but I'm sure even he would be embarrassed to read some of your posts.

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Both these statements are exaggerations and make you look foolish.

Pavlik is good. He's getting better each time I see him.

But try to keep things realistic.

 

And you base this upon Joe and Mikkel having a close fight?
Very interesting, again I feel if Joe or Mikkel ever got in the ring with serious punchers like Miranda or good boxer/punchers like Taylor, or Zuniga that both Joe and Mikkel would meet their end....If anything Calzaghe-Kessler taught us how OVERrated kesslers power is...aside from this Kessler has the mental strength of a 4 year old and Joe has the boxing ability of a club fighter, the only thing Joe has is intelligence, however intelligence alone won't beat Pavlik

Pavlik KO8 Calzaghe
Pavlik KO10 Kessler

 

He made good pts which i dont think you understood.

Its the level of the fighters Pav would struggle with which is the pt he is making ie Kess & Joe.

 

Pav KO everyone :blabla

 

No mate, I don't think you understand...Kessler and Joe are merely on level with his previous castaways at middleweight, ironically Zuniga, Miranda, and Taylor are much more dangerous than the all powerful Joe or Mikkel. It's more than laughable how you've convinced yourself otherwise. What's really sad is that out of 45 victories there is only one fighter that Joe has beaten that can be mentioned as a possible opponent for Kelly.....45 victories!!!:-(

 

holy **** lol:

 

don't try to analyze and be rational with Paclickers, just accept it as fact and move on.

 

It's my first encounter with this species and i did accept it as fact and moved am moving on

 

zuniga being to much for calzaghe.

now i have heard it all.

common sense on esb is going out the window .

 

Just say holy **** like i did

 

Again no disputing or countering, just elementary bull**** from limeys that have no case....again when the facts are overwhelming just resort to childishness...theirs ignorance and then theirs arrogant ignorance(british boxing fans)
I must say you guys set a precedent:happy

 

my facts and rationale are a few pages back sister.

 

I take it you havent seen Zuniga fight...
He's easily the most underrated boxer in the sport today...who has Joe beat thats even comparable in quality? let me guess Kessler? or the senior citizen that just put him on his ass in the 1st round?

 

Undoubtedly (regarding FMJ)

ESB's extreme Joe-colored glasses ...

Hard to give Joe any credit when the prevailing opinions regarding more proven or less protected fighters are so far-fetched ... no common ground or basis for discussion

The ESB line seems to be that RJJ, Toney, Hopkins, Taylor, Mayweather, Miranda, etc., etc. are overrated while Calzaghe & Kessler are some kind of dragon slayers ... now Pavlik apparently should be shaking in his boots at the prospect of fighting the Dane or the Welshman ... at least their slamming of Pavlik makes the other aforementioned so-called overrated fighters listed look less 'colorful' as an issue or reason for said denigration ...

Pavlik is a step up because he has had to prove himself in the US gyms and in the ring against tough comp ... a developing and improving endeavor that is deemed unnecessary by the fans of certain paper champs abroad .... lol

 

ignorance...umm you've been conversing with 2 aussies mate.