Would Lennox Lewis linking up with Tyson Fury be a good decision?

"Fury being a bull**** artist is a damning trait to have because when he says he wants to fight people yet doesn't he should be held accountable. He's made countless excuses for fighting punch bags like chisora and uppercut addict Whyte rather than challenge other more deserving top contenders"

 

You can be a BS artist and still take good fights, the two are not mutually exclusive. For instance, Fury's been the underdog in four career fights; that's more than any top heavyweight since Holyfield. And it would have been five had Haye not ducked 7 days out from the fight.

Chisora 3 was rubbish (low risk, low wear, high reward payday fight) but team Joshua ducked the December date and Ruiz has proven impossible to deal with according to team Fury, team Wilder and team Zhang.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...ucking-of-fury-in-bombshell-interview.694541/

"Whyte rather than challenge other more deserving top contenders"

Whyte was the WBC mandatory, let's not revise history. Many were claiming that Fury would duck Whyte. 50% said Fury would win easy but the other 50% were saying it would either be a hard fight for Fury or Whyte would win. Whyte was also regarded as a good fight for Joshua 16 months and two fights later.

 

fighting chisora ten years ago was fine. fighting him two fights ago and following up by fighting whyte, was a blatant duck of every decent hw out there.

 

I Fully agree, that's what my problem with him is, if he truly believed in himself he would have cleaned up after he tickled the belts away from Wlad, instead he ran away from the rematch and has been ducking and diving ever since, knowledgeable fans view his wins over wilder in the right context

 

"No one in their right mind thought Whyte who had not too long been starched by Povetkin and had gone life and death with chisora, parker and Rivas stood a chance in that fight and we were proven right. Fury presents himself as someone that does what he wants when he wants so he could have fought much better opponents, he is just a fraud that wants all the accolades without actually challenging himself"

 

You could say similar things about McCall, Rahman, Puritty, Sanders and Brewster before they KO'd Lewis and Wlad. They were all clear or massive underdogs and were not regarded as a serious challenge by most observers.

Here are some facts regardless of any nonsense: Fury's been in more wars than any prominent active heavyweight other than Chisora and has been the underdog more frequently than any top heavyweight since Holyfield. No heavyweight in history has lost the proportional equivalent of 10 stone after 31 months out and come back to have anything like Fury's success.

 

Would be a good idea only if he could persuade him to retire.

 

I asked you to name the three fighters fury was an underdog against and you replied with a load of fury PR nonsense.
The only wars fury has been in are the wilder fights and that's because he doesn't know how to outbox Bambi legged fighters without going life and death. The only time Lewis lost was to lucky punches, I dont recall Lewis getting outboxed in his prime and hitting the deck multiple times. Also losing a ton of blubber doesn't make you one of the best heavyweights, it makes you a fat dosser with no discipline that momentarily got your act together.

 

I can respect that coming from you, the point I was making was it wasn't like a war of attrition it was a lapse and that's all it takes in the heavy weights. What really irks me is people buying into this notion that fury is an all time great when he hasn't proven it yet.

What are your views on where stands when compared to previous champs?

 

"I asked you to name the three fighters fury was an underdog against"

Chisora 1, Wlad, Wilder 1, Wilder 2. Haye too but Haye pulled out 7 days prior. Fury still evinced a total willingness to fight Haye, despite being a clear underdog coming off the Cunningham fight.

"The only wars fury has been in are the wilder fights"

You haven't followed his career whatsoever. Why am I even talking to you?

"I dont recall Lewis getting outboxed in his prime and hitting the deck multiple times."

42 year old Larry Holmes victim, 0 KO's in 6 fights streak Mercer gave Lewis a 50-50 over the full 10. Bruno and Vitali (controversial, vehemently protested stoppage) had outboxed him after 6. Fury hasn't been outpointed over the distance either.

Lewis didn't fight tall athletic massive one-punch KO artists like Wlad or Wilder and whenever Lewis hit the deck, he didn't get up. Boxing isn't about staying off the deck first and foremost, otherwise Lewis-conqueror McCall would be the best ever rather than a "fringe contender" with 14 losses.

 

He turned pro in 89. When exactly did Lewis duck Tyson? At which specific point was he accused of ducking Tyson and by whom? It was Tyson and King who later paid him step aside money and Lewis sued to try and get him in the ring.

 

Apparently Tyson beat Lewis up in sparring in 1984 and started tearing through the division in 1985. Perhaps this explains why Lewis elected to stay in the amateurs until 1988, to the age of 23.

Lewis then fought the likes of Al Malcolm and Dan Murphy in his first eleven fights, despite having around 100 amateur bouts and an Olympic gold medal, boxing since age 12.

Hearn caused a bit of controversy a few years ago when he accurately claimed that Joshua's resume in his first 21 fights was far superior to Lewis's, who was 27 when he fought Ruddock. Tyson was already in prison by this point. Two years later Lewis got one-punched by 24-5 fringe contender McCall.

I think it's clear to see that Lewis avoided a pre-prison Tyson, the timing didn't favour Lewis. This isn't to say that Tyson didn't avoid anyone himself though.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/lennox-lewis-vs-tyson-1990.43676/

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/lewis-vs-tyson-1990-and-1991.512070/

 

"Lewis fought much more credible opponents than your hero Fury it's not even debatable holyfield ended his career with 10 losses does that take away from his greatness? Or in your deluded fan boy mind does context only apply when it's Fury? I'm convinced that you are actually John Fury that someone's given a laptop to and you are hell bent on convincing everyone that Luke is actually an all time great, unfortunately he isn't though!"

 

Nice way to capitulate.