Would Lennox Lewis's Jab Cuddle Antics Have Worked Vs Today's Super Heavyweights?

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Problem with Vitali is that he's not the only heavyweight with those attributes. AJ is certainly capable of giving him problems. I think too many people write AJ off because of his losses but they're often the same people who praise Lewis despite losing to lesser fighters.

    Usyk clearing out the Cruiserweight division, and coming into heavyweight winning three of the four belts in his third fight is what makes him far better than Vitali in my opinion. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
     
  2. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Being realistic Fury could cause Lewis many problems in an interesting fight. However I make Lewis a comfortable favourite. Usyk would be interesting as well, again though Lewis has to be favourite.

    To think Joshua and Wilder don't leave a fight against Lewis on their backs is a brave pick, as he is superior to both in the majority of departments.

    Anybody on this thread slating Lewis quite frankly isn't worth paying attention too because he is without doubt one of the best heavyweights to have ever stepped foot in the squared circle.
     
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  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What the hell has fury ever done>
     
  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dethroned two long reigning champs. Love him or hate him he has the ability to best any heavyweight out there.
     
  5. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he won a decision in a terrible fight with a distracted 39 1/2 year old and two fights against a coddled bum killer. he swerved actual contenders to fight guys like Pajkic, Abell and Schwarz. He is One of the most overrated boxers in history at this point.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Joshua wouldn't have the durability, stamina or general solidity to beat Vitali. I'm not even a fan of Vitali.

    Joshua could surprise and he's still defining his legacy but i detect a bit of fragility and stiffness when push comes to shove. In some ways he reminds me a little of Bruno. Lewis lost 2 fights in 14 years and 44 fights. He emphatically avenged both. One was when his game was still flawed so he went and shored it up with the very guy who drove a wedge thru it. He didn't lose for another 7 odd years when complacency set in and he got his just deserts. He came straight back and put an absolute schooling on his conqueror leaving him prone on the floor.

    Joshua has lost 2 of 26 right in his prime. He's actually lost 2 of his last 4. Admittedly he has avenged once and gets the chance again. He's far more up against it this time tho.


    You are talking achievements when the rest of us were talking in ring ability at heavyweight.

    As i said Usyk is miles better than Vitali P4P and he is also "greater" overall.

    Talking up 3 of 4 belts sounds good but in reality he beat Joshua, the 2nd or 3rd best heavyweight in the division. Winning the rematch will see him #2 or perhaps even #3 for some people.

    Lets see how his next 2-3 fights go. He's certainly a talent, even at heavyweight.
     
  7. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury's career isn't finished yet I don't think so flip what you have said and he beat a long standing champion who hadn't lost in years away from home. Wlad then looked like he still had something to offer Vs AJ.

    Wilder was undefeated and while his competition is weak with only 2 or 3 decent fighters on it his punch power is impressive. Fury outboxed him in fight 1, destroyed him in fight 2 and then Wilder showed that he has more than a punch in a war in fight 3,

    Fury was also the first person to beat Chisora and Wallin. Wallin still remains to be seen how good he is.

    He was 16-0 Vs Pajik so hardly knocking on the door of a title fight at this point - it wasn't until the USS fight his push for a title started to come.

    He's also destroyed Whyte in a clinc. Whyte isn't everyone's cup of t and he has his limitations but Fury destroyed him. A solid win over a top 10? fighter.

    Fury could have achived more but if he was to beat Aj or Usyk or both that would be a very solid career.
     
  8. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Probably cause that’s basically what’s Fury does now and it works for him.
     
  9. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    This is some world class poppycock I’ve just read here. Fury’s win over Klitschko was nothing short of a masterclass of a performance where he effectively used movement and faints to confuse and out class Klitschko. Just cause you think the fight was boring doesn’t devalue the fact Fury is one of the greatest heavyweights to ever lace them up.
     
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  10. Robney

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    Calling every boxfan with eyes "casuals" doesn't change that it was called one of the worst and most boring titlefights in heavyweight history.
    Fury fans call it a "masterclass" now, but it just was two defensively minded fighters refusing to engage and throw punches.
    That Fury (who should have been banned at the time) threw a couple more won him the fight.
     
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  11. Dynamicpuncher

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    Just to put it into a perspective Klitschko threw 6 power punches in 6 rounds, it was a sparring session.

    A masterclass is Toney vs Barkley, Napoles vs Cokes 1, Mayweather vs Corrales, Taylor vs McGirt, Locche vs Fuji, Whitaker vs Ramirez 2, Jones vs Toney, etc.

    This fight on the other hand is certainly not what I call "a masterclass"
     
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  12. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lmao, you must be related to the clown. he is world class at swerving.
     
  13. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in the third fight Wilder was stumbling around like a drunk from the third round on. All he proved vs Fury is he stinks. Expect him to continue getting ko'd in the future.
     
  14. reckless

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    He would still be very successful, to the same level he was in the late 90s and early 2000s? Perhaps not but not far off. The difference between him and someone like Wlad is that he could brawl and had a great uppercut.

    Wladimir is the one who would struggle big time in this era. His brother would fare better.
     
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