Would Lewis vs Briggs be the closest fight in style to Haye vs Wlad?

shannon probably through more punches back then and he wont move around as much as haye will or have the head movement. In terms on hand speed and power they have similarities.

 

Shannon was slower than Haye but a lot more powerful,he really did hit like a mule.

 

And then said Lennox Lewis had a glass jaw..?

Silly.

 

Not really I think the dynamics of the fight are very different.

Firstly Briggs isnt at all chinny and having 2 chinny fighters can potentially hugely change the emphasis of the fight, turning a war into a defensive chess match. With Briggs having a good ol' chin trading with Lewis is not a bad strategy. With Haye doing this is very much putting himself in the firing line.

Besides this I think the nature of the fighters is very different. Haye and Klitschko is a very big size difference in comparison to the above and further to think WK is much more of a range cagey fighter as oposed to Lewis who liked to mix it up and if the chance was there go in for the kill or just have an all out brawl, as the above ended. Briggs also lurked in the pocket with some James Toney esque upper body movement, again I cant see Haye doing this

I expect Haye to use his feet a lot more, in and out (more of the out)

Even if Haye and Wlad did trade as above, which I dont think they will, it will be over very fast indeed.

 

**** me Shannon was a sucker for those Lewis right hands.

 

Good post-


Another thing in ELITE heavyweight titles fights...both Briggs and Lewis are far more attacking actually resemble each other style more than Klitshcko with Lewis.


Remember THIS both Haye and Klitshcko walk through opponents are the lower level BUT when fighting higher calibre fighters both have adopted similar strategies due to PAST experience.

Klitshcko has been down 11 times, and knocked out 3 times early on, Haye has been down a few times and lost due to throwing to many punches and not pacing himself and BOTH have adopted strategic plans that utilise their talents.

Klitshcko is to work behind a dominate left jab the best in the heavyweights today, he controls the distance and the pace of the fight. When any fighter comes in close, he either moves backwards to throw the jab or clinches and wears them down (M. Steward method). Throw sheer volume of jabs, and occasional rights hands and tight lefts hooks, Wlad takes his man OUT. He has the power to take men out in the first 3 rounds but due to his past losses works behind the jab and has become a defensive fighter with big knockout power.

Haye on the hand, skills havent really changed, but instead he throws alot less, relying on his power and placement shots. One of the reasons, Ruiz was able to see through the early rounds was becuase Haye did not throw huge amounts of punches after hurting John, as he knew he would tire later on.

If you look at all of Haye heavyweights fights, he waits, he moves his head, and waits for his opponent to throw then reacts quickly throwing big punches.

Notice the Monte Barrett fight where, Booth tell Haye you have thrown around 24 punches as if they are bang on target.

An all out war will not happen between both men, even in quick exchanges Haye will win, he has quick reflexes and more dynamic movements when in close, Klit will be buzzed a few times but will hold on or move backwards.

Klitshcko will win this by sheer volume of jabs thrown out, i think Haye as the fights goes on will eat more and more jabs.

Haye is fast and extremely powerful but his maximal strength and durability is not that of a heavyweight like Tua or Peter guys that can keep taking leather.

Also Briggs and Lewis were real close togeather in terms of distance but Haye and Klitshcko will be further apart, both looking to sharp shoot rather than fight a trench war fare.

 

Nope, this is.

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Only Haye isn't as good as Maxie Baer and Wlad is (arguably) better than Carnera.

 

I'm not sure about the Lewis/Briggs comparison either.

Neither Lewis nor Briggs were worried about being hit. Lewis was a natural gunslinger that was moulded into a relatively cautious boxer/puncher by Steward. What he always retained throughout his career was the willingness (and ability more importantly) to either blast somebody out or to get them out of there once they were ready to go.

That's in stark contrast to Wlad, who whilst probably appearing more effective in breaking an opponent down, would continue to paw away at the most spent of opponents, almost getting them out of there by accident.

Haye/Briggs :think

Briggs at his best was a pretty effective machine. He wasn't a particularly good boxer, but commanded the respect of his opponents because he could bang with either hand and take a decent punch back in return.

Haye is similarly effective, but we've yet to see him in with a young, live body that is both hungry and capable of exposing the weaknesses that he's shown thus far.

He can be tagged with jabs and right hands, and despite being pretty light on his feet often leaves himself off balance. This is compensated by his good upper body movement, though his head movement is poor.

His biggest weakness IMO is his finishing skills. Horrendous.

I'm not convinced he's got the ability to knock heavyweights out with a single shot, even relatively vulnerable ones. If you know how to clinch I'd bet on the hurt fighter being able to survive.

 

Lewis is superior to Wlad and Haye is superior to Briggs imo

 

nothing like it if im brutally honest

 

Briggs fares better H2H than Haye for sure.