Would Lucian Bute have a higher chance of beating Joe Calzaghe or Mikkel Kessler?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think both would win convincing UD's against Bute
     
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    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    When Bute will step into the ring with these guys he will show courage and desire to win. Bika did well against JC. Bute will do better. Whether he wins or not...it's too early to say...let's watch Berrio and his first defence...and let's watch JC v. MK...;)
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'd say Calzaghe, just by styles. Kessler's style will have Bute chopped in half by round 5 guys, then would dispose of him in another 3.

    Calzaghe would beat him throughly to a decision most likely, giving Bute more options than Kessler's jab and right hand in his face all night.

    This being said, Calzaghe beats Kessler and I could never see Bute beating Calzaghe either, the question is however "which would Bute have a higher chance of beating" and he has ZERO chance of beating Kessler on styles and intangibles, that would be a massacre.

    Joe could both of his hands even, which gives Bute more of a shot.
     
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    sandwichsurgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Bute can maybe fight Kessler some time in the future, by the time Bute warrants a fight with Calzaghe due to Butes achievements (assuming he ever does) Calzaghe will have probably retired as Lucian at this stage adds very little to his Resumé.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'd go Calzaghe for a wide UD, Kessler for a sheer brutal beatdown to a KO 8.

    Kessler/Bute would be so brutal that it would be difficult to watch.:lol:

    Calzaghe has the extra agility to get out of the way of that jackhammer jab and punishing right hand, Bute doesn't and Kessler lacks the true 1 punch KO power to due him in early, so it would drag out and Bute would get pummeled visciously.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I know that transitivity does not apply in boxing that much, but still...if Bute's style is reasonably close to that of JC and JC beats Kessler, why doesn't Bute have a decent chance against Kessler?
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'll explain:

    - Joe's easily 1.5 times as quick in handspeed and is way more active.

    - Joe is more accurate.

    - Joe's combinations and tighter and his jab is stronger.

    - Joe's agility and footspeed are nearly twice as fast, which will be his biggest weapon against Kessler.

    - Joe's defence due to the agility and footspeed is top notch, where as Bute has a leaky defence.

    - Joe's experience is as good as it gets, by this time, he knows every trick in the book and how to pull out wins if worse comes to worse.

    Understand my friend?
     
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    teetop Active Member Full Member

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    In that article the author is talking like calzaghe/kessler is a done deal.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol: Why don't we have a little bet, you and I, Amsterdam, a bet between friends: if Bute gets KOed ot TKOed by Kessler...they are bound to fight sometimes...I'll let you set the terms...;)
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I dont think Bute's ready for either yet.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'll tell you what Decebal, Bute vs. Kessler is one of the only times that I'd be comfortable in betting everything I own at shitty odds for Kessler, it's a 100% garauntee that Kessler chops Bute down and wins due to styles, intangibles and what not.

    It's about as certain as it gets, as certain as Peter over Maskaev.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'm not going to rob you of your money mate....:lol:

    Let it also be known that I'm getting back on track, as I went undefeated in picks this weekend.

    Kessler KO 8.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I do. Difference is that Bute is not just a slowed down, less accurate, leakier version of Calzaghe...it's not as simple as that...for starters, Bute is stronger mentally than Calzaghe (he maintains his concentration and is not thrown of his gameplan as easily as JC), he is hungrier for a win than JC (he is at the beginning of his career and feels he has much to prove), he gets better as the fight goes on (JC fights an even fight), Bute is a percentage fighter (Joe goes for the win after he loses patience and takes unneccessary risks) so he doesn't put himself in a situation where he would be ripped to bits within the first couple of rounds...sure he might lose them, but he won't get KO'd, because Bute fights with his head! From a moral point of view, I think Bute is also superior to Calzaghe. This is important. He is also more powerful than JC is. Also, I don't think Calzaghe would rabbit punch Bute with the latter not hitting one of his vicious body shots...he can affor to as he has a good chin...

    In conclusion, Bute has a good chance against JC...he might not beat him, but he has a strong chance...against Kessler as well for that matter. :p
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    you are the analyst...I'll have to take your word for it, Amsterdam!:good