Would Lucian Bute have a higher chance of beating Joe Calzaghe or Mikkel Kessler?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Jun 17, 2007.


  1. pioterbezkitu

    pioterbezkitu Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    You were pretty confident about the outcome of Miranda-Pavlik ;)
     
  2. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    I'm not as confident as you (Amsterdam) regarding Bute's chances agaisnt either. Although he has weaknesses in his defence I beleive he is the same kind of fighter as to JC/MK. INTELLIGENT. Naturally gifted in making the right decisions at the right times.

    Fighters like Lacy, Mundine, Judah etc simply dont have this ability.

    Bute is still green though, hence fighting hesitant at times. I think both Larouche and Bute knows that if he is fighting hesitant in just one round against Kessler he will most likely be KO'ed or at least badly hurt.

    Being hesitant against Joe is just suicide - JC will play with him if Bute fights like that. Cat vs mouse.

    In a year or two - a more seasoned and defensively better Bute will make it a hard time for Kessler. Bute still looses though.

    Bute vs JC will never happen. Bute aint on the "3 fights" list.


    Regarding Kessler vs. Joe....

    That matcup is just so ****ing perfect. Very different styles etc etc etc.

    Kessler by tko 11 is btw now my official prediction. :yep
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes, and Miranda coming in totally weight drained didn't help that either.:lol:

    You were extremely confident in Adamek vs. Dawson, where as I paraded around in saying that it was "dead certainty" that Dawson "totally outclasses" Adamek, similiar to how I'm dead certain that Bute gets wiped out by Kessler.

    Everyone gets a wrong pick here and there, but if you'd like to directly compare then we can start now in comparing picks for up and coming fights for fun.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Kessler's right hand and Calzaghe left hook would both land, Kessler's is just more damaging overall and nobody will challenge that fact.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Astola - If you get hesitant vs. Calzaghe, you get trashed, if you get hesitant against Kessler, he controls and picks his spots with beautifully timed punches and combinations.

    Either way, Bute is open for that jab and right hand all night long, Kessler KO 8.

    Pure brutality.
     
  6. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    As for now I agree. But when they fight it will be a close one. Bute has some of the qualities comparable to Joe. Combinations, body punches, fast feet, excellent balance, agillity etc.

    Bute needs too pass the Jab and the lead right all night. Thats why he will loose now and in two years time.
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    But his agility and speed is not comparable to Joe in reality, he's much slower and isn't as awkward/frantic.

    I really like Kessler, I think he's a future P4P force, Bute's tailor made for him at any point and time. I garauntee this just like I garaunteed that Andrade wouldn't win a single round.:lol:
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    so the bet is Kessler KO8 Bute. Kessler TKO11 Bute - do YOU still win?:think
     
  9. pioterbezkitu

    pioterbezkitu Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    WTF?? I was confident about Adamek vs Dawson? No way! That's bull****, buddy :-(
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    If it's a stoppage, I win. Of course, I have a running bet with Astola, as soon as the fight between Cal/Kess is cemented.
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Amsterdam, mate, you are on!:deal
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    If you wanted to do a Mundine vs. Bute bet, I'd also take Mundine.:lol:
     
  13. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd say Kessler due to his stand-up european style.
     
  14. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Yeah and that was a very good prediction.:good I thought Andrade would hurt Kessler at some point because of his unnatural chin and infight ability.

    But no - Kessler just played along in the 11th and 12th. Impressive.

    I have a thing for Bute - I think he could be the future king of smw. And I dont agree that his agility and footwork isnt comparable to Joe's.

    But for sure - its Joe's awkwardness, speed and unpredictability thats going to be his biggest assets vs. Kessler.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Amsterdam, mate, you are on!:deal If Mundine beats Bute, I lose. If he does not, I win!