Would Lucian Bute have a higher chance of beating Joe Calzaghe or Mikkel Kessler?

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  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Deal. You have a chance to win something here, I take Mundine at about 60%, but the Kessler fight you have no shot, so maybe we'll split it here.
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol: Generous as ever! Thanks, buddy!;)
     
  3. Arthur

    Arthur Member Full Member

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    to answer the question, Bute has no chance against either of them. He might beat that ****** Mundine though.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    thanks for bringing us back to the question and answering it! I agree with you where Mundine is concerned! Let's hope that happens in less than a year's time!
     
  5. deram

    deram Active Member Full Member

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    I think both would be hard fights and the winner would not be a given. I think chances currently would be about 20-30% against both.
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    how do you see Lucian faring against Mundine, deram?
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Against Calzaghe? 20% sure.

    Against Kessler? 0%.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ...then Bute is no better a boxer than I am...I don't think I could score less than 0% myself!:lol:
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You'd score -100% mate!:lol:

    I'll be fair, you already know how I role with things, Bute has the chance that any fighter getting in the ring has, the chance that Kessler doesn't show up or gets injured....

    So, 5%.

    I said that Andrade had a 0% chance also, he didn't win a round and got thrashed.... similiar to how Bute would get thrashed but would get stopped.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :rofl Bute would start howling like a wolf on 'shrooms if he heard you say that!

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  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :lol:

    I'd have told told Andrade face to face that I am being humane in the sense that I am trying to prevent him from taking a massive beating that may damage him forever, luckily he was an iron man.:lol:

    Bute/Andrade is actually a good fight, I'd go Bute 116-112.
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah! But both of us would probably rather see him take on Lacy, ...particularly because he is said to find holes in Bute's defence so easily!...right? Would that not be a good first defence?

    Or would you have someone else in mind for a first defence? Let us assume it would be Mundine after the first defence...
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Sure, first defence, let's say Mario Veit, then Mundine.

    Berrio and Veit would give him some experience and he'd KO both, which builds a train for him to ride on, which helps in match making.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    you'd prefer Veit to Lacy as a first defence? Is that because Lacy is too dangerous?
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    It's because it would be best to give Lucian a nice "highlight" fight for his first defence. Inkin KOed Veit in the 7th, if Bute got Veit in say the 3rd, then that builds more for him since Veit is a name in Europe and has a record of 45-3.

    Lacy is virtually considered to be done because of injuries and that bad thrashing vs. Calzaghe, Lacy has to prove otherwise that he is not finished with a few tune ups, he's not going to jump in with Bute all rusty.

    Bute needs to build steadily, jumping in with Lacy that early will work against him either way because Lacy would be rusty, coming off injury/lay off and has not proven recovery, and if Lacy KOed Bute, then that puts Bute back.

    I'd go with Veit, then I'd take Inkin if I couldn't get Mundine.

    So Berrio, Veit, Inkin/Mundine would be what I would attempt for Bute's next 3 if I were the manager and believe me, that's great comp.