would margerito-oscar have turned out like oscar-vargas?an interesting comparison

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  1. faisal

    faisal Hoolios daddy Full Member

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    I recently watched the de la hoya-Vargas fight and i couldnt help but wonder wether a fight between oscar-margerito would have followed the same suit, like vargas, margerito would have early sucess pinning oscar to the ropes but eventually oscar would adapt to margeritos relentless pressure and box in the centre of the ring, margerito would be a sitting duck and inevitablly oscar left hook would force the ref or margeritos corner to put an end to the fight.Personally i think its a bit generous comparing margerito to vargas the vargas oscar beat in 2002 was possibly a much harder puncher then the current antonio never the less margerito has a superior workrate,however i think margeritos workrate against some one of oscar calibre would never be an issue.
    your thoughts?
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    This is really pointless. Oscar is so underrated nowadays on here its pitiful. Just look how easy Oscar disposed of Mayorga as compared to Mosley's struggle with him. I posted in a thread earlier that although Mosley might have beaten him twice, Oscar is much harder to beat then Mosley is. The guy has an iron chin, a great jab, a devastating left hook and great combination punching. And contrary to popular belief, around here, he is a fighter first and foremost. He grew up fighting and is a seasoned veteran with tremendous skill and experience. Yes. This fight could definitely end like Hoya/Vargas did. Margo is a threat, but a guy with such weak defense fighting Oscar is a scary scary thing.
     
  3. Giovanni

    Giovanni New Member Full Member

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    Ummmm, not even in the same league. Oscar wants absolutely nothing to do with Margarito after the beating he dished out to Cotto.
     
  4. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    I have a higher regard for Margo than Vargas to be honest with you.
    I dont think Margo would have folded late against Tito or Oscar either.
     
  5. ChampionsForever

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  6. faisal

    faisal Hoolios daddy Full Member

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    did u even read my post i strongly favour a prime oscar to finish margerito
     
  7. Gatekeeper78

    Gatekeeper78 Active Member Full Member

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    When Oscar fades late in the fight is where it would get dangerous for him, too bad we did not get to see this fight.
     
  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    PRIME oscar disposes of margarito in 10 as does a prime TITO.
     
  9. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would say yes to that same Oscar who fought Vargas but Oscar was younger then. I honestly can't say for one reason. His last two fights are no real indication as to how he would show against Margarito. The styles of Floyd and Forbes are so vastly different than Marg's its impossible to use them as blueprints. His job was too outbox two gifted boxers. He failed at Floyd (because of Roach imo) and he succeeded against Forbes. I think you have to see the Mayorga fight as more closely representing a fight with Margarito. But even then it's tricky becayse of Marg's better conditioning. But two similarities I see is Marg's openness to the left hook when trying to land his own punches and a preference for coming forward (which is not such a good thing when its the only way you know how to fight, esp. against a powerful counterpuncher).
     
  10. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    Margarito is a far tougher proposition than Vargas. Vargas was always an overrated, slow, sitting duck fighter with a suspect chin. Margo is a wall of granite, rangier and more unrelenting than Vargas.

    De La Hoya could outpoint Margo as he could stand tall with him and use distance to keep Margo at bay. He had the skills to do that, like he did with Javier Castiijo. Very unlikely De La Hoya stops him though. No chance in fact, whatever time in De La Hoya's career.
     
  11. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    this comparison leaves me puzzled.... oscar fought a vargas whos chin was shattered by trinidad, coming off the longest layoff of his career, steroids or not....

    vargas and margarito are not comparable in any way actually to me, im not trying to critic your thread.... but im sure that the margarito that fought cotto (we will see if the cotto fight took something out of him) would eat everything oscar throws throughout the fight... though i do think oscars left hook is harder then anything cotto really throws besides maybe his left to the body, but i dont think it would look anything like oscar vargas.

    I really have no doubt margarito sees the final bell.... and just might outwork even that oscar throughout the fight, would be one hell of a matchup....
     
  12. faisal

    faisal Hoolios daddy Full Member

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    oscar is a very underated puncher and margerito leaves himself exposed, margeritos face would end up badly battered and bruised theres no question about it.
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I wasn't insulting or disagreeing you. My post was in anticipation of the anti-Oscar diarhea that was surely to come from the haters on this forum :good
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Hell know....even THAT version of DLH is long gone. And Margarito has better workrate and chin then Vargas. Tougher.

    DLH can't keep a high, active rate and expect to have something in reserve. Hell, even when he's NOT throwing a lot he was tiring late. Even his most homosexual fanboys would admit that.
     
  15. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime for Prime Oscar beats him up real bad, Oscar has a rock chin and was an awesome boxer with serious pop. Probably a corner stoppage or on cuts.