Would Mayweather Be Greater Had He Fought Cotto Or Pacquiao...and Lost?

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Mayweather wants Pacquiao to take the tests. He lied and said he conceeded when he didnt. Mayweather gave him 14 days the first time, and he refused. Now its up to the fight, clearly Pacquiaos fault. Hell Mayweather even claims he signed the contract.

    As for Mosley vs Cotto, at the end of the day, Mayweather completely schooled Mosley, Cotto eeked out a tough decision on his bike in the 12 round. You say Cotto has an easier style, no he's a easier fighter. Mayweather stood in the pocket against Mosley, same as Cotto, he's just a better fighter.
     
  2. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DIsagree bigtime. Mayweather is often criticized for being a cherrypicker, losing to any of these guys would only chip away at his legacy!

    It's that shiny zero that puts him above many fighters in the eyes of a lot of boxing fans!
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Losses define careers often, but who are we kidding; ANY LOSS IS BAD (with 50 or so exceptions ever). Any Mayweather fan will say NO. Any Pacquiao fan would say YES, because Torrecampo, Singsurat, and Morales never happened.
     
  4. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    His style played more into Shane's hands like I said earlier. He had an easier style for Shane. Boxer-types have always been Shane's weakness just look at his fights with Wright & Forrest. Mayweather has MUCH better defense than Cotto and didn't have to take the shots Cotto did overall.(Yes Mosley nailed Mayweather but that's one of the few times he caught Mayweather flush). Styles make fights and I mean just that. Tough decision or not Cotto fought & beat a younger,more active Shane than Mayweather did. Dude, I said Pacquiao isn't free from fault earlier. BTW, if Floyd was really serious about drug testing then he would've asked about it as soon as he came back.
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Cotto can box. He's just not an elite boxer. If Cotto was an elite boxer Mosley would have struggled. And I fail to see how that matters. Mayweather didnt really box Mosley. He stood infront of him and countered. He wasnt on his toes, with the jab, he was right there to be hit and Mosley couldnt do it.



    Styles make fights. But styles dont matter here because Mayweather is just all around far superior to Cotto.


    Serious or not, Pacquiao did not agree to 14 days the first go around which would have made the fight happen much easier.

    Funny that Roach said Pacquiao wasnt ready for Mayweather and the delay to the next negotiations happened huh?
     
  6. D Berns

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    if mayweather lost he would still be great.

    he would just have to rematch the opponent and beat em.

    even if he loses and dont rematch the opponent he will still be an all time great.

    win or lose from now on mayweather will be an all time great.

    so will pacquiao, so will cotto, so will mosely.

    their resume is already built
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Cotto can box but he LOVES to fight and so did Shane. He broke down fighters but he couldn't do that with Shane so he decided to box more though both guys came to trade. Mayweather DID outbox Shane you don't have to be on your toes to do that just look at Wright-Trinidad. Like I said, Mayweather overall didn't have to take the shots Cotto did (other than in round 2) because his defense is far better than Cotto's. Floyd wasn't serious or he would've asked his first opponent(JMM) for drug testing. It is BOTH guys faults that the fight didn't happen no one is free from fault.
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Pac will always be more highly regarded than Mayweather. Nothing is going to change that, unless Mayweather considers fighting Pac or Martinez/Williams. Unlikely to happen though.

    To answer the OP question. No. That doesn't excuse ducking, though.
     
  9. elTerrible

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    Cotto was never going to beat mayweather. Im so sick of hearing how amazing cotto was in 2007-2008. He got a close win over Mosley so what
     
  10. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Yeah he had some good names especially early on, its just that it kind of stagnated when he got to 175 and there wasnt much available and he didnt want to move to other weight classes.
     
  11. titan

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    the problem with void is instead of fighting a cotto, a margo, a william, or even a pac, the whole boxing world would have celebrated his greatness for his willingness to step up to the true threats at 147.

    instead, he went after a clearly out of his class hatton, a sfeatherweight jmm and grandpa mosley.

    and *****s, just as you think pac should not get credit for beating a 35 year old dlh, the more void should not get credit for a 38 year old mosley.

    just see mosley vs. mora for verification.
     
  12. NALLEGE

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    :lol:
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Agreed. His first decision win was against the tough and durable Jorge Castro. It was a good learning fight for him at the time against a veteran with many fights. During the twilight of his lt heavy dominance he just lost his hunger so he recaptured it in trying to(and succeeding) gain a heavyweight title. Yes it was Ruiz of all people and at the time Lewis was the man but I could never see a Lewis-RJJ fight happening.
     
  14. NALLEGE

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    Floyd fans think Floyd's great. PAc's fans think he's great. I think both are great. Floyd is the greater fighter.
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Cotto was vulnerable at times but was very exciting and that's why people (like me) love him. I'm tired of people talking about his win over Mosley like he "dominated" him. That didn't happen.