Would Michael Dokes destroy Sonny Liston just like Ali did

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not only is Dokes bigger than him but Liston struggled with fast fighters and counter punchers and Dokes would be an evolved heavyweight compared to Listons competition
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    No.

    Dokes had fast hands but he did not move around with the footspeed of Ali.

    No other fighter than Ali could have made Liston miss those big left hooks. If Ali was a touch slower, he couldn't have avoided those hooks. Even guys like Holmes or Usyk couldn't dance away from Liston the way Ali did.

    Furthermore, Ali hit harder than Dokes, and was far more durable.

    Liston didn't struggle vs faster fighters. He struggled vs one elite super fast fighter like Ali and there is no other Ali.
     
  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Dude was tough but he lost to Dexter and then Lila. Poymunently.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  5. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, because Dokes did not have the footwork. He was right there in front of you. Not a formula for success against a killer puncher like Liston. Ali was tall, slick, and elusive, with footwork, angles, awkward head movement, and clinching. Liston would not struggle as much to hit Dokes.
     
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  6. BoxingFanMike

    BoxingFanMike Member Full Member

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    Dokes was had fast hands but not so much fast feet. He was also not very elusive. The epitome of the 80s lost cocaine heavies. Personally I think Liston clubs him like a seal on an ice flow. Never cared for Dokes at all.
     
  7. PRW94

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