would mike tyson be significant in todays heavyweight division ?

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  1. Tranquillity

    Tranquillity Active Member Full Member

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    You can claim they are bums like anybody that has a loss. I mean if you think that way then why do you rate the K bros who has only been fight bums all their life?

    He had little emotional problems that would affect his fighting when he was leading up to unify the heavyweight title and if anything his emotional problems probably made him fight better and add to his fighting ability and why he blew everyone outta there. Totally lost it later on but at his prime, mentally he was tough sob that was concentrate on improving his boxing ability to be the best. Look at all the interviews after his early fights, he would talk about what skillet he needs to improve on and analysis the fight like a scientist. You can see he was totally focus on how to kick arse.

    Okay, fair enough if you think their resumes are about the same since anyone and spin it any way but can't you tell Tyson was a step about K Bros just from looking at the way he fought? There is a big big discrepancy in skill level that is obvious no matter who they fought. You don't need to know who is in put in front of Tyson to see he is one of the most skilled heavyweights around.
     
  2. The Spider

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    A prime Tyson makes a meal of 99 percent of the current heavyweight division. Could he beat the brothers? We can argue it all we like. But we'll never know :-(
     
  3. Tranquillity

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    Vitali is tough but was getting tagged all night long by Lewis when Lewis did bothered to throw a punch why his face got mashed. If he had good reflexes he wouldn't have been target practise from Lewis jabs. Did not even see him try to move his head to ride the punches and was pretty much getting squarely jabbed in his face.

    His only defence is lean back jab away style that works because he is usually bigger than most but with Tyson, he is great at getting into range and with Vitali being so easily hit, Tyson would smash his face in so quick, he don't know what hit him.

    Unlike his brother who gets panic attacks, maybe he could stand up to Tyson for a while and hold Tyson off. But if you think Vitali is tough, Tyson is just as tough and probably more so and in a battle of Vitali trying to hold off Tyson and Tyson come steaming in, there can only be one winner. (pss is not Vitali)
     
  4. cnamdam

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    Tyson would struggle to land a punch on wlad and whilst he could hit vk he would be met with twice as much in return plus vk just doesnt go down
     
  5. Musashi

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    Read it again. I didn't call anyone a bum. I never call a prizefighter a bum. Even the worst still have courage. As for Mike... well, again, you and I see different things, clearly. I'm not convincing you, and you haven't said anything to persuade me. Saying Tyson looks more skilled in your eyes doesn't cut it with me. No matter, it was a fun debate. I think I've made my points as well as i'm going to. Moving on...

     
  6. lufcrazy

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    If wlad fights at 100% he might be able to keep mike on the outside, but if mike is at 100% he might be able to force his way inside. Mike slight favourite.

    Mike might not stop vitali but he'd force his way to the inside and win a fairly wide ud.
     
  7. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    Absolutely he would (prime Tyson)
     
  8. LONGROB

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    I met Lamon Brewster before the Golota fight, and he's not 6'2. He sparred the 6'4 Cisse Salif, and the height difference was huge.
     
  9. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    Can we get these kids to actually watch fighters before they comment on them?
     
  10. LONGROB

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    These assholes always act like Berbick was some bum. Hell no, a 42 year old , fat as hell Berbick went the distance with Rahman, and was insolent at the final bell. Berbick actually fought a hell of a lot of good talent, and was almost never stopped. He was teak tough. Tyson just made him look enept. I also don't think that Tyson gets enough credit for knocking out Holmes because of Larry's excuses. A 16 month lay off is not that long. Also, Micheal Spinks 91 second ko has degraded him a fair bit. He was one hell of a fighter too.
     
  11. LONGROB

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    Vitali is great, but that lean back style is a shitty idea against a murderous body puncher. I don't think that Vlad does very well with Tyson, but Vitali is a different story. People love to talk about Vlad's footwork because Lewis brought it up once, but Vitali's is much better. Notice how Vlad often has to tie up aggressive opponents while Vitali makes guys like Chris Arreola look foolish. Barreling forward swinging at air like a drunk man trying to find a light switch in the dark.

    In the end, it was that round against Solis that cast all the doubts about Vitali taking on a light footed and quick fisted opponent with skill and a chin.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Either way, if we define relevant as a top ten contender, then at the very least, every has to agree mike would be atleast relevant.
     
  13. Tranquillity

    Tranquillity Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson has never struggled to land a punch on anybody. He is the most accurate puncher I have seen.

    Waldo might be able to try to hold him off for a while, but Tyson would get through and land his bombs and it is lights out for glass jaw Waldo.
     
  14. Bubby

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    So Berbick's calim to fame was going the distance with a green Rahman?

    As I recall Berbick lost every round in that fight, and I think he was down also.

    The same Rhman was knocked out by Wladimir, Lewis, Tua and twice by Maskev, He also got beat by Holyfield and Ruiz. So you clearly made my point.....
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    You haven't seen rahman v tua have you?

    You've been exposed as a wlad hater already. Just give up.

    You play your part cleverly trying to talk up vitali but the truth is vitali is clearly the inferior brother.