Would Mike Tyson Be Simply Too Small, To Be Successful Now?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, May 25, 2021.


  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,531
    4,275
    Jul 14, 2009
  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,841
    8,445
    Aug 15, 2018
    Didn’t say he would win said he would be the best challenge stylistically. He is the champ
     
  3. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,575
    11,329
    Mar 23, 2019
    This makes the point clearer to me, thanks my friend.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    60,047
    22,093
    Jul 21, 2012
    If you made top 10 win lister since Bowe beat Holyfield , Fury's win over Wlad would be top 10. . I think it was a great win and one of the best upsets
     
  5. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,494
    2,183
    Nov 8, 2008
    Tyson would be the favorite against all of them....

    Hunter, lol, slow as molasses Joyce and Butterbean Ruiz would go to sleep..........thats a fact.

    The Bodybuilder capitulated against a obese average punch bag with a chin....

    Wilder' right hand will never land..........if you get walked down by feather fist Fury your goose is cooked

    Fury would resemble a mix of Bonehugger/Tucker, afraid to engage and letting his hands go flickering 1.21 punches a round...

    Nobody of the above has ever seen the speed of foot and hand combined with major power like Tyson brings to the table...

    Povetkin ? LOL, that Russian Hype job never ever won a real belt, went life and death with cream puffs Huck and Chambers and was rag dolled by glass chinned Wk........high light reel KO for Tyson.

    Tyson is Heavyweight Boxing..................his prime ended 30 years ago and he is still the most talked about Heavyweight, effectively he took over after Ali's passing.
     
    Stiches Yarn likes this.
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    51,351
    41,263
    Apr 27, 2005
    Tyson would go just fine. Tucker and Smith get brought up as examples of Tyson struggling with big men but Bonecrusher fought embarrassingly negative and Tucker after a decent start went into self preservation mode and was stifled out of the match. Tucker won what, maybe 3 rounds? Bonecrusher 0-3? Both fights were extremely easy wins on the cards but because he was such a knockout machine and expectations incredibly high they were viewed in a negative way by most. To be fair the wins are if anything a plus as he showed he could scale back after the early explosions and win round after round against decent big men. He paced himself well and came back strongly after Tucker briefly stunned him in the first round.

    The guy who would potentially give him the most trouble now IMO is Furey. Furey can be dropped and hurt but he has an enormous heart and will as well and is a huge unit with some talent so he'd be awkward at the very least. Perhaps it would partially compare to the Tucker fight but closer and with Tyson having more chance of a finish as Furey wouldn't shut up shop like Tucker and Smith did because he has huge stones and is a winning type of competitor.
     
  7. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,575
    11,329
    Mar 23, 2019
    I'm just not sure Fury could take those punches...Tyson didn't hit quite as hard as Wilder, but he hit a lot more often, accurately. And if Fury goes down, Tyson was 100X the finisher Deontay was.
     
  8. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,543
    1,526
    Nov 23, 2014
    Maybe Tyson would go down to cruiserweights instead.

    This idea that he steamroll everyone at heavyweight seems a tad bizarre given his struggles and losses in his own era. The massive height gap today could make it hard to even land head shots efficiently
     
    Fergy likes this.
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,553
    Nov 24, 2005
    Tyson handled Tucker just fine.
    But I'm not sure Tony Tucker is what they call a "superheavyweight" these days. I think people mean someone about 240 solid pounds when they say "SHW".
    Tucker was tall but around 210 to 222 pounds at his best. I think he was 221 against Tyson.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    24,887
    15,663
    Apr 3, 2012
    221 for Tyson, 235 for Lewis.
     
  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,036
    Oct 25, 2006
    Yeah, my interpretation of 'SHW' is 6'5" or more, 240+ pounds.
    It's height and mass.
    Tucker today no doubt would be 240+, but he was a lanky 220-pounder then.

    But getting a 6'6" (or 6'5", whatever) mover out of there is really difficult. Tucker had a damn good chin, too.
     
    Unforgiven and Man_Machine like this.
  12. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,553
    Nov 24, 2005
    Yeah, I didn't think much of the post-Tyson versions of Tucker.
    He had no legs at that weight. Also he was older and drugs had dulled him.
    Shame he went AWOL after the Tyson fight. Would have loved to have seen him back in the ring a few months later and campaigning towards another shot at Tyson. He could have been an interesting factor in the division. He gave Tyson a decent fight and was in shape and only 28 years old.
     
  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,308
    9,070
    Jun 9, 2010
    Tucker could bang a bit, as well; often demonstrated against men with a weight advantage over him.

    I'd say Tucker certainly had the SHW frame. Post-Tyson, after some time out, he regularly weighed in, between 230-240+.
     
    fists of fury likes this.
  14. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    57,829
    76,466
    Aug 21, 2012
    Barring the very top guys, Tyson would go through this division like the bubonic plague.
     
    Oddone likes this.
  15. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,494
    2,183
    Nov 8, 2008
    Today, most of those "Superheavies " are fat and on PED's....

    In shape, in top form not old top guys like Bowe/Lewis/WK/VK/AJ etc are around 230-240 give or take a pound...................that"s roughly 10 to 20 pounds more to Tyson's 220.........it aint gonna make a difference @Heavy, apple to apple skill vs skill.

    Wilder is even lighter than that , gets out weighted by 30/40 and up pounds but got the speed and equalizer.

    I have made that reference countless times, you can fault Bruno for many things but he was as strong as a ox and big as a house and despite his best efforts to grapple tire out rabbit punching /holding behind the head Tyson simply out muscled him in the first encounter while giving Bruno a savage beating nobody ever duplicated.

    Tyson would beat the living shid out of fat Andy and fat Whyte, absolute beat downs.......they would never recover from those beat downs.