Would Mike Tyson Be Simply Too Small, To Be Successful Now?

They may be using PEDs but many are much larger than Tyson fat aside.
Joe Joyce for example is just a huge dude, way bigger than Tyson and his opponents same with someone like Makhmudocv

 

Tucker stopped exactly one guy ranked in the top 10 in his entire career. When did he ever weigh 240+ while in shape. He's shorter than many of the top prospects today like Yoka, Joyce, Hrgovic, etc

 

Tucker pretty much had it al as a fighter, but his in-ring mentality held him back.

 

He most likely could've trained up.

 

I get the impression from the above, that you are disagreeing with something I posted, but I am not exactly sure what.

 

If Ruiz takes Joshua out, prime Tyson puts him in a coma. So the real question is... how long could Joshua duck him?

 

For one this idea that Tucker qualifies as a super heavyweight. He weighed in the 210s and 220s during his prime. i don't think he was any bigger than Norton or Nino Valdes. It seems a pretty strange argument.

 

Tucker definitely does not qualify as a super-heavyweight. Not in his prime, not when he faced Tyson.
I don't know what's so great about "super heavyweight" anyway. 220 pounders are plenty big enough.

 

I stated he had a super heavyweight frame, which at 6' 5" tall and with an 82" reach is hardly contentious.

And yet Tucker's height and reach were closer to that of Lennox Lewis, frequently referred to as a Super Heavyweight, than those of Norton or Valdez.

When Lewis and Tucker met they actually both weighed in at 235lbs and Tucker didn't look out of shape to me.

 

I doubt Tucker's listed height is accurate. He is probably 6'3 1/2 to 6'4. The reach measurement is also pretty dubious. He appeared shorter than Lewis who is circa 6'4 1/2. Lewis regularly weighed in the 240s, Tucker was 221 against Tyson so again not comparable.

Ernie Terrell was tall but I would hardly call him a super heavyweight.

 

Your argument is a bit weird.

Lewis weighed 227 for Mason
221 for Mike Weaver
227 for Razor Ruddock

He intentionally put on weight, specifically when trained by Steward. If he was bigger than Tucker, there was very little in it.

 

Later in his career he routinely weighed over 240. It doesn't change the fact that someone weighing 221 pounds hardly qualifies as a super heavyweight. Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton had a number of fights around that weight.

There's guys at cruiserweight that probably rehydrate close to that weight. Are we going to include cruiserweights that rehydrate to 215 as super heavyweights?

 

Tucker when he fought Tyson doesn't qualify. He was too light.
But frame-wise, he's no smaller than many of the so-called super heavyweights.
No doubt today, he could easily weigh 240 or more, if adding mass was his goal.
That was the point the whole time.

 

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I don't buy into this "super heavyweight" thing at all, but if a super-heavyweight is defined as 6'4 or more, and let's say 17 stone (238 pounds in American lingo) ......

Surely a fighter can move from being a heavyweight to a super-heavyweight, just as a fighter can move from being a welterweight to a middleweight ?
Tucker might have qualified as a "SHW" in the 1990s, but against Tyson he was a "HW", and the HW Tucker is better than the SHW Tucker anyway.
I remember seeing an early Tucker fight when he was 200 pounds, in his early 20s, so you could say he already 'bulked up' to heavyweight from what is now considered cruiserweight.

I agree with this. Most of them are better at the lighter weights.
Some of Lewis's best wins he was actually under 230.

For example :

I think he went a bit too heavy in some fights. I think the low 240s should have been his limit. When he hit around 247, 248 he definitely looked slower and less sharp. Fortunately for him most of the opponents were slow plodders (like Tua) who came in too bulky as well.

His best range seemed to be 227 to 242.