Would Mike Tyson Be Simply Too Small, To Be Successful Now?

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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson doesn't have Wilder's height or reach and Wilder hasn't accomplished much so far. He certainly hasn't come anywhere close to dominating the era.
     
  2. IHaveAscreenName804

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    I fail to see what you just typed has anything to do with what I typed kid. My point is Tyson weighed more than Wilder. Wilder was heavyweight champion up until recently. My point is kid is that Tyson fought various guys who were 6'5 plus and won easily so why couldn't he beat 6'5 plus guys now. Also little kid there is a weight class in boxing not a height class.
     
  3. Cojimar 1946

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    Maybe because the big guys today are way more dangerous than the journeymen big heavyweights he fought. I don't think any of them are remotely close to being as good as Fury or Joshua or even Wilder.
     
  4. On The Money

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    He did and didn't. Green and Smith tied him up and Douglas knocked him out. Was not that convincing vs Ruddock after that. Lewis never gave him much chance so he could be controlled by range and clinching. That said 88 Mike with fear factor intact could knock out anybody.
     
  5. Cojimar 1946

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    None of those guys were over 6'5 anyway. Tyson never beat someone 6'5 plus who was ranked in the top 10, not once. Fury, Joshua, Wilder are all over 6'5 and among the best in the world.
     
  6. IHaveAscreenName804

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    Lol if you think Fury throwing walking arm punches is being skilled or glass chin Anthony Joshua who couldn't even beat 6'0 tall morbidly obese Andy Ruiz is special then you must be a little kid. I don't type or talk to little kids so I will have to ignore you now.
     
  7. IHaveAscreenName804

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    Tony Tucker was listed at 6'5, Tyrell Biggs was 6'5, Jose Ribalta was 6'5. Each of these guys were more skilled than Fury, Joshua, or Wilder. Tyson beat these guys easily. Tyson beat various 6'3-6'4 guys who were better than skill wise than any boxer who is boxing today.

    Tyson got knocked out by Douglas a extremely skilled guy. Joshua got knocked out by a morbidly obese shorter Andy Ruiz. Tyson Fury was almost knocked out by 180 pound Steve Cunnigham. Deontay Wilder got knocked out by coke head, steroid user Tyson Fury.

    Mike Tyson fought in a better era, fought big guys and was still dominant. Mike Tyson would destroy every single fighter you name today.
     
  8. On The Money

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    I think Biggs was 6'5", just not strong enough to put much pressure on Mike.
     
  9. On The Money

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    Ribalta was as skilled as Fury? What wacky world of sports did you read that? Ribalta was a soft pudding and transitioned easily to chinny journeyman latterly. I forgot about Tucker. Mike didn't beat him easily in my book. If you mean the later 80's Tyson didn't fight in a better era at all. He cleaned out the bad Holmes era and then came unstuck against a blown up cruiser four years his senior. Fury still has his 0 btw. You can mock him for that flash kd from Cunningham but he's still unbeaten and champ.
     
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  10. Cojimar 1946

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    But they are clearly better than the 6'5 plus guys Tyson beat who weren't even ranked.
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

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    Tyson Fury knocked Cunningham out. He wasn't almost knocked out and Cunningham was 210. Using a flash knockdown as evidence Fury sucks just doesn't cut it. What about Douglas losing to Jesse Ferguson and then beating Tyson.

    Tyson actually lost to a former cruiserweight.
     
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  12. IHaveAscreenName804

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    I never saw Ribalta throw slapping arm punches like Fury. So Ribalta is more skilled than Fury.

    Lol Tyson had his 0 until his 40th plus fight. Fury doesn't have that many fights yet little child. Fury's best win is against a old Wladimir Klitschko who was already destroyed by Corrie Sanders and also stopped by Lamon Brewster and Ross Purritty.

    Tyson lost to Holyfield? You mean the Hall of Fame guy who most people think was on steroids? And Tyson Fury almost got knocked out by blown up light punching faded cruiser weight Steve Cunnigham. Tyson Fury struggled against Otto Wallin a guy who wasn't ranked in the top 50. But lets ignore that right? Get the heck out of here kid.

    Now you get ignored? You know why? Because as stated I don't type or talk to little kids online. Go type to some other 15 year old kids your age about boxing and then you can use terms like "boomer" so you can be internet cool.
     
  13. Cojimar 1946

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    The current heavyweight landscape has far more than Fury though. Even if someone felt he wasn't very good there's still the likes of Joyce, Makhmudov, Yoka, Huni, etc all of whom have yet to lose. In Tyson's era an old Foreman and Moorer became champs. That's hardly what one would expect in a golden era.

    And Lewis's losses to McCall and Rahman are nearly as bad as Klitschko's losses to Brewster and Sanders one should think given they were basically contemporaries.

    Ruddock troubled Tyson and doesn't appear to possess an especially advanced skillset so you don't have to be exceptionally skilled to cause him problems it would seem.
     
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  14. On The Money

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    Nobody has beaten Fury and it hurts you doesn't it wee man. I get it. Likewise the severe beat down Mike took from 40-1 shot Douglas which was effectively the end of his career as a dominant hw age 24. Hurts you. Ribalta was a chinny fringe contender that lost to everybody with a pulse, you'll be claiming he was better than the Klitschko's next, but we all know that it hurts you wee man. Your hero Wilder was smashed by a chinny Irish traveller and it hurts deep. I get it. You're pain is going to continue for years yet so better suck it up and keep plenty tissues for your salt tears. Maybe best delete your pathetic account and head for a rooftop.
     
  15. Entaowed

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    You have been repeatedly called out for lying about weights & sizes, but now do it again.
    You know very well Cunningham would never get a HW fight at 180 lbs., & he was a fit 210 lbs. vs. Fury!
    So you lied by 30 whole pounds. Your credibility is nill.

    Especially since we all see you being vicious to people who are kind & tolerant to you.
    Why call everyone a "kid" & "little kid"? You seem to avertise extreme insecurity about your position here, so act insuting from a safe, anonymous distance.

    Please change the tiresome, babyish abuse the brings down our forum...Or be gone Forever.
    Thank you.