Would modern Deontay Wilder be too small for the 80s/90s HW divison?

Wilder could carry 235 pounds perfectly in fact he did during his career(229 or 230),the problem is that he does not need doing it to be effective, lewis was ponderous like **** at 245. Look at him at 227 vs ruddock,he was fast,explosive,powerful and great, at 245 he had extra weight

 

Why the **** we have to see Wilders name even mentioned in this forum is beyond me.

 

Maybe they are preparing us for a thread about modern day duckers?

 

Absolutely not. People say the HW scene was bad under Wlad. Consider that it's largely the SAME GUYS in the top positions as under Wlad except that they're years older. Pulev, Povetkin, Charr etc. "Big Fatty" Miller, the same guy that got schooled by a beyond-ancient Cro Cop, is a top guy. Tyson Fury, is irrelevant. AJ the champion was a whisker away from being destroyed by ancient Wlad.

Face it, the HW scene sucks mightily right now, and being a top dog in this mess isn't exactly something to write home about.

Wilder has largely fought the biggest collection of bums and stiffs since ... well, probably since William Bezerra 'ruled' the Brazilian LHW scene with an iron fist.
Wilder could have fought Klitschko except he didn't. He did get destroyed in sparring by Wlad, however. Wilder could have fought Povetkin except he didn't.
Converted footballer Washington gave Wilder a boxing lesson. Duhaupas who is "ok" gave Wilder all he could handle. Then we have "Scuba" Scott who casts a rather dark shadow over even the wins over bums. The guys he did face usually are featherfists that beat him up before falling prey to his huge power.

He beat Ortiz, yes. Even though Ortiz is straight off the Ark, I'll give Wilder credit for beating what is a dangerous boxer-puncher, and weathering a few hairy moments to get the win. But that's ONE win. It convinces me that Wilder is better than I thought he was, it doesn't convince me that he's an actual champion worth talking about.

Wilder clearly is effective in this environment and within the niche he has carved out for himself. So was Bezerra. It doesn't change the fact that most of his fights were against barrel-scrapings, that he'd get outboxed by some of these low tier guys, and that the HW scene right now is god-awful.

 

Exactly.
Wilder was ripped to the **** at 216. He could carry 230 and have a lower body fat than most of this fighters:

Lewis
Morrison
Bowe
Bruno
Ruddock
Tyson
Holmes
McCall
Rahman
Golota
Briggs
Tucker
Grant

WILDER IS NOT SMALLER THAN MOST OF THEM! HE IS BIGGER! Cut that crap Wilder beeing small at 216! Its utter bull****!!

 

It is why i laugh when some people say "lewis was 20 pounds bigger than foreman" BULLSHI7!! Anybody can add weight training in a gym, if you take in count that lewis trained weights to built his 245 pounds and foreman weighed even 232 without touching a weight and was a little shorter it is a total joke..Physical Peak lewis weighed 227 pounds.
And the real weight of morrison was 211 like he did in his early career, he had skinny legs and he was on roids he was just a little bigger than holyfield naturally.the 227 pounds of morrison are fake.bruno was a muscular guy but if you see him closely you realize that his frame was not that big because he weighed 228 for tyson1 and he was packed of muscle... Foreman and peak lewis did not have this mass and still weighed the same

 

All of the above, for sure; especially, a need for a new definition of “most feared”.

 

Weight alone does not equate to size...

 

This talk about "he had a big frame so it makes up or lack of weight" is utter bull****. If you weigh 216 lbs then you weigh 216 lbs. It doesn't matter if you're 6'7" or 6'2". If anything, Wilder is even more disadvantaged because his frame has weaker muscle on it than a shorter stockier fighter who had to train to get to that weight.

That's why in powerlifting you don't normally see guys that are skinny as hell competing in the lighter weight classes. Everyone is stocky and short for the weight.

 

Toney? Ok how many guys more did it? The exception to the rule

 

Excellent points.