Would Muhammad Ali Have Parkinson's If He Retired After The Foreman Fight?

Its a difficult subject. I personally started to notice the odd strange symptom in Ali after the Thrilla in Manilla.....never before. Sometimes he'd get that vacant look in interviews that is characteristic of the post retirement Ali. He was certainly never as good again in the ring.

I could believe that the Thrilla in Manilla contributed to the start of what we now know as his 'Parkinson's syndrome'. The only issue is, apparently others in his family have something very similar, despite never absorbing thousands of head punches. At one point Parkinson's syndrome seemed to be thought of in a different light to actual Parkinson's disease, but I'm not convinced Ali's condition is a syndrome acquired soley though head punches.

Whatever he has had, since the Berbick fight has clearly worsened over the years despite the lack of no further brain trauma.........so I could believe that even if he had retired post Foreman; he might have still ended up in the same condition.

If Ali had retired post Foreman we wouldn't have had some excellent fights, Frazier 3, Norton 3, Shavers or the glory of winning the title 3 times against Spinks.

He clearly should have not met Holmes or Berbick.....

 

quick clarification -

P's Disease = degeneration of specific parts of the brain detected, with corresponding effects that you can see just looking at the patient

P's Syndrome = you can see physical characteristics of the Parkinsons in the patient, but no actual evidence through tests of degeneration of that brain matter specific to Parkinsons Disease.


So, if you see the patient showing the effects of it, its the syndrome, but if (or once) the tests come back as positive for specific brain matter damage, then it classed as the disease .

generally disease = something diagnosed clinically using tests (and so its classed as primary, it proven to originate in the diseased area)
whereas syndrome applies to symptoms you see that are typical of a disease but not necessarily caused by it (and classed as secondary ie as yet not related to the typically diseased area, but stemming from a secondary source outside that diseased area).

 

clear as mud now lol

 

Read the books by ferdie pachecho fools, & stop this dam psychoanalysis!! alis physical features changed before the 2nd frazier fight. compare his head shape in norton 2 for comparison!!

 

Truamatic Parkinson's is caused by damage to the substancia negra near the cerebellum, in the back of the head. It causes depleted dopamine levels, which is the nuerotransmitter that spikes when you do heroin.

Damage to the frontal lobe happens because the brain richochets around in the head, the main impact point being when the frontal lobe slams into the front of the skull. That can cause impulsiveness, slurred speech, and depression (I think depression is linked, not sure.).

 

n oneck, that is correct. basically ali had a hole in the middle of his brain. This was discovered by a ny doctor before the shavers fight. He also had busted kidneys too!! This was disclosed by ferdie manny many times!!

 

Back to the future 3 gave the world Parkinson's


Shakin they hands to the remote to change channels

 

Probably not. At least 75% of the damage he took in his career came in just one fight: the Holmes one.

 

I doubt it was that much from the Holmes fight alone.

Ali was already showing signs of brain damage going into that fight, despite being cleared by the NSAC. His speech was already noticeably slowed, motor skills slowing, and he was said to not have been able to do the "put your hand out and touch your nose in one motion" test. He was missing when trying to touch his nose and couldn't really hop on one foot.

Disgustingly, he was cleared to fight. take that in with the thyroid condition, it's lucky that Holmes-Ali wasn't worse.

The fights with Frazier (particularly 1 and 3), Shavers, Spinks 1, Foreman, Norton, all that sparring...so much damage and the NSAC cleared him to fight. Despicable.

 

Read pachecos fight doctor/ blood in my coffee/ my view from the corner etc. This will stop these stupid conspiracy theories fools!! He was in the dam corner for 16 dam years!!

 

It's hard to say for sure, but I bet he may not be as bad as he is now.

 

Read those books vargas man. And check his head shape between norton 2 & frazier 2!! And thomas hausers life & times. his medical records are in there!!

 

His health was deteriorating even before facing Holmes and it was very apparent. Just watch his interviews before the Holmes fight.