Would Naoya Inoue Unifying Against The Rungvisai-Estrada Winner Elevate Him To P4P King???

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Would Inoue Unifying Against Rungvisai/Estrada Make Him The P4P King?!

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  1. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Loma's the P4P King --- no question. But if Inoue destroys the Rungvisai-Estrada winner, his resume would be obscene. Dude is 24 years old and can unify at Junior Bantamweight against a legit monster in the Superfly 2 winner.

    The body of work would be:

    Adrian Hernandez
    Omar Narvaez
    Kohei Kono
    Rungvisai/Estrada

    Vs.

    Nicholas Walters
    Rocky Martinez
    Guillermo Rigondeaux

    Discuss!
     
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  2. lufcrazy

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    It puts him im the discussion even if he doesn't destroy.

    I still am not convinced Loma is P4P king. I mean I kinda feel he is I but I don't think he's as proven as Crawford or Golovkin.
     
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  3. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    What reservations do you have about Loma? He just made a MASTER BOXER look like a one dimensional cabbie in his 3rd pro fight.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

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    Yeah but he was two weight class's higher wasn't he.

    My main reservation is he hasn't unified his division though. Or beaten the next best SFW out there.
     
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  5. Paranoid Android

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    Size wasn't the issue. Loma only wrestled Rigo when Rigo clinched. Loma didn't impose his size and therefore didn't win on size.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

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    It's alright saying size isn't the issue when the bigger man wins though.

    I wanna see him dominate some of the title holders in his own division.

    Berchelt, Machado, Roman.

    He's be odds on to RTD all 3 of them but that's why we make the fights.
     
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  7. Paranoid Android

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    I'm not a Rigo defender despite my picking him to TKO Loma. Loma didn't impose his size, therefore size wasn't the reason he beat Rigo. Horn, Margarito, Cotto, Hatton, and Floyd imposed (or tried) their size on Pac. Loma even had the shorter arm length. It was straight boxing.
     
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  8. Paranoid Android

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    Damnit, I can't even make up my mind on an answer for this poll.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    I picked Loma by stoppage. Again when the bigger man wins its all too easy to say it wasn't due to size.

    I think he will dominate his division but I wanna see it happen before I credit him too much.
     
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  10. Paranoid Android

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    I hear you.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    As for the thread.

    In our beating Rung wouldn't be enough to clearly leap ahead of Crawford, Golovkin and Loma for me.

    Even if he went up to BW and beat Burnett I'm not sure it would be enough.

    This is an era of genuine ATG talent and it's hard to separate yourself.
     
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  12. Paranoid Android

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    You'd have to factor in that Inoue is 24... and hasn't hit his prime.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    He's a beast, rightly so.

    He might well be the best SFLW in history. But to be ranked clearly ahead of Crawford, Loma and Golovkin would be a big ask wouldn't it.

    Does he even have a career trajectory that can result in him being a clear unquestionable number 1?

    I mean let's talk best case scenario here.

    Say he beats Rungvisai, Burnett at BW, Rigo at SBW. Even then is he a clear number 1?

    I'm not sure.
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 10, 2017
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  14. Arpeggios

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    No. Lomas just better.

    Inoue is undervalued though. Borderline top 5 p4per IMO...
     
    Arpeggios, Dec 10, 2017
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