would nick wells have been an actual contender if he went pro alot earlier?

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  1. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    would nick wells have been an actual contender if he had went pro earlier in his career? he was 189- 18 110ko's 72 1st rd ko's. yet he was 13-8 as a pro before he called it aday. so he was actually fighting in his prime as an amateur. this baffles me, why did this happen?
     
  2. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    he had already fought 186 fights as an amateur before going pro, so was he to be considered already done by the time he went pro? he fought for the military (us air force) and fought tons of international compettion. when would have been the ideal year for him to break out. i say 1972 after he had beaten holmes for the second time. holmes had only fought a couple more fights before he went pro but wells went pro in 1976 but holmes in early 1973. holmes lit the world on fire and is one of the greatest pros to have ever graced the ring. nick on the other fought a bunch of nobodies in the pro ranks.
     
  3. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    nick did not amount to anything in the pros . he fought mike koranicki and lost . according to nick his moronic trainer made nick lose 20 to 25 pds to make this fight making nick like 195 pds. nick said that he was tired and weak and hungry and didnt feel himself at that weight. he was more comfortable at the 215- 220 range. he reeled off 4 wins to begin his pro career against nobodiies but i guess you have ease or tune yourself before facing real compettion but still did not come through. this pisses me off!!!!
     
  4. kolcade4

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    why was he wasted? he could have been the great white hope of that era. a beacon of light for the ever so rare great white fighters. this should be punishable. his trainer / manager winky groom did him wrong.
     
  5. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    help me out with this guys feel free to bash if you must , i can take it . i just want to hear everyone's true opinions on this , in the most professional of manners. im coming out right now. i am nick wells jr.
     
  6. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    sorry for the deciption but i felt it necessary for the time being to stir the pot.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    the best deabte ever

    kolcade are you ok man your talking to yourself
     
  8. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    i just keep posting thoughts, they seem to be easier to read if they are not all jumbled in one long paragraph.
     
  9. kenmore

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    Wells was certainly an excellent amateur, but does that mean he had the talent to make it as a top flight pro? There's a distinction between the amateur and the pro game. Certainly a stellar amateur career is a good prognostic indicator for professional potential, but it's not a sure fire litmus of pro success.

    Wells was not a big heavyweight...I think he was around 6'0" tall and 200 lbs. at his best. Thus, he would have needed to compensate for lack of size with some other natural attribute. Given that Wells was not a devastating puncher, and considering that he didn't have the slick boxing talent of a Jimmy Young, my guess is that he would never have made a truly world class fighter as a professional.
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Wells I saw had good power as a left handed fighter.

    My sources in Texas said Wells' management was not the best for a pro career.
     
  11. kolcade4

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    you say that he was not a devestating puncher but yet he is mentioned as one the most powerful and most devestating punchers of his time. i think his record speaks for itself w/ 110 kos , 72 of those being in rd 1.as far you saying that he would have never make a world class fighter brings me to my question. did he stay amateur too long? was he at the ass end of his career when he went pro? like i said he had already fought 186 fights before going pro in 76'. i think he completly missed the open window of oppurtunity by not turning pro in 72' after he ko'd larry holmes for the second time that year. i think that leads back to the ultimate answer which is what i have heard on hear alot and that is that he needed a trainer to have developed a style around his power. fair enough, but another question comes to mind. could the right trainer developed an oxygen tank(stamina) for nick to be able to venture into the later championship rounds?
     
  12. kolcade4

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    are you kidding me, the management he had completly sucked for a pro career. i don't know what this guy was doing. his name winky groom. more like dumb ass to me.
     
  13. kolcade4

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    well his pro career does speak for itself. he absolutley sucked as a pro. now can we blame that on mngtmnt or could we blame it on the fact that maybe he just wasn't that good. but lets take into account that he does go pro in 1972 and does get the right support. well maybe this turns out to be different story altogether. what i would like to see is list of his opponents that he fought during his amateur career, and see if there are notable wins to be accounted for.
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I knew you were. I said that weeks ago. :good
     
  15. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    good job dinner,you are a regular dick tracy.