Would Norton do to Big Cat Williams what he did to Bobick?

The brevity of the Bobick encounter was compounded by the fact that Bobick was a very slow starter. No way Norton would go at Williams in the same manner. That would incur a fire fight and Cleveland could be very explosive. I wouldn't be betting the house on either of these two.

 

If anybody is getting whacked in the first round in this fight,,,,,it's Norton.

 

Ken Norton, I do not think would have liked a firefight encounter with Cleveland Big Cat Williams in his prime before he was shot in 1964. Sonny Liston once remarked that Williams hit him harder than anyone he fought, Big Cat broke Sonny's nose in 1959. And in 1974, George Foreman jumped all over Ken Norton when an exchange ensued. We all saw what happened next in round 2.

 

You should never expect first round KO in fantasy fight, because these are rare. That said, I don't have anything against early stoppage by Nortom here.

 

So you made this thread only to troll chokelab? That's pathetic...

 

I don't defend him, I just call your motives funny to me. I thought it's a real thread at first.

 

I agree with the argument that Williams, as Norton also, didn´t have the best whiskers. But Norton was a much more proven fighter.
What Liston did to Williams isn´t on the same level to what Foreman did to Norton. Its not even close.

Do you see Norton getting stopped like that in 3 rounds against Ali or Satterfield?

Which again rises the question: Are 4 of the top 5 stoppages Liston accomplished against the chin of Patterson and this fellow?

Btw, the question poll of this thread doesn´t make much sense: Liston did not stop Williams in 1, he did it in avarage 2,5 rounds. And Williams DID get stopped in 3 against Ali and Satterfield too.
Is Ken Norton so far away from the punching abilities of Ali and Satterfield? I don´t know.

 

I agree with this. I congratulate the logic here.

If this thread was designed to trap me for having some strange unique ideas then it is blown out of the water because this post here is absolutely in line with my take on the subject.

Williams did not stop anyone of much value. Norton did. And whilst both suffered knockouts...Williams is In a much lower league here.

In the 1970s Norton was right up there with Ali and Frazier as among the best. Extremely high status in a much better era. He beat Ali, Jerry Quarry, Duane Bobick, Jimmy Young, Larry Middleton, Zannon, Tex Cobb.

Williams? He beat billy Daniels (on points) to get a rating then drew with Machen. That’s it. Brian London and Karl Mildenburger beat better fighters in the 1960s.

 

Wrong. He battered and stopped 7th ranked Alex Miteff to get a rating and didn't fight Daniels till two years later.